Comment by trhway

Comment by trhway 5 days ago

26 replies

That is just simply not true as was illustrated by many stories in the news. And in particular why would the ICE then use that checklist - young, Latino, tatoos ... -> gang member to extradite (to Guatemala).

And what final order of removal were for example the US citizens picked by ICE subject to?

zahlman 5 days ago

US citizens were extradited? Who? To where?

  • 15155 5 days ago

    Invariably someone will shoot back with "citizen children of illegal immigrants."

    • defrost 4 days ago

      Sure, that happens a lot despite Court orders to the contrary.

      ICE has also deported full adult citizens, eg: Pedro Guzman, Mark Lyttle, etc.

      * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guzman

      * https://www.acluofnorthcarolina.org/press-releases/court-rec...

      Currently there's a running problem simply having access to the names and files of those that disappear into the ICE Gulag.

      • zahlman 4 days ago

        > ICE has also deported full adult citizens, eg: Pedro Guzman, Mark Lyttle, etc.

        Per your sources, these happened in 2007-2008, so that hardly seems relevant to the current discussion. Trump is not responsible for law enforcement overreaches that occurred under GWB.

        > Currently there's a running problem simply having access to the names and files of those that disappear into the ICE Gulag.

        What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

      • 15155 4 days ago

        How many other developed countries in the world allow tourists to unconditionally birth citizens?

    • nobody9999 4 days ago

      >Invariably someone will shoot back with "citizen children of illegal immigrants."

      Do the children of immigrants have fewer rights than other citizens?

      I'm the child of an immigrant. Do I not deserve the same rights as any other citizen or resident of the US? If not, why not?

      • 15155 3 days ago

        If you are a citizen child and your parents are arrested and subsequently incarcerated for breaking the law, you will be placed in foster care absent a suitable alternative guardian.

        In this case, the children are being kept with their families. Who else should take them? Foster care?

        Parents don't just magically get a free pass to break the law because they birthed a child.