Comment by DidYaWipe

Comment by DidYaWipe 13 hours ago

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What went wrong is that the federal government didn't build or legislate a national charging infrastructure to match the scale of the interstate highway system.

They could have strong-armed the states into it with a combination of funding the construction and the way they mandated the 21 drinking age: by threatening to withhold highway funds.

phonon 12 hours ago

They definitely tried... $7.5 Billion worth. It's on pause now :-(

https://www.govtech.com/transportation/federal-funding-for-e...

  • hed 7 hours ago

    And how many stations did that yield?

  • cpursley 10 hours ago

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    • motorest 8 hours ago

      > Yeah, because it was ineffective and the people running it, like most federal bureaucracy - extremely incompetent (to mind bending shocking levels).

      I think this sort of statement should be revised. From an outsider's point of view, there is a political current within the US that pushes with a fundamentalist fervor the idea that state institutions cannot do any good or anything right. This becomes a self fulfilling prophecy when they elect candidates that push these ideals, which have a vested interest in sabotaging, derailing, and shutting down projects.

      • eagerpace 7 hours ago

        It’s not just a perspective. Tesla was doing this just fine, building tons of chargers, profitably. The government attempts to stimulate more but at a much higher cost. I have yet to charge anywhere but a Tesla charger. I do think the NACS standard finally being widely adopted would have changed things but came a little too late.

    • perihelions 9 hours ago

      That program should be a textbook case-study in how not to run federal projects.

      Here's a true statistic:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/... ("Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years" (2024))

      • cpursley 6 hours ago

        That's insane. Wild that people defend this because they hate Trump so much (yeah he's a bag-oh-farts, but that's a lot of damn money).

voidfunc 12 hours ago

> They could have strong-armed the states into it with a combination of funding the construction and the way they mandated the 21 drinking age: by threatening to withhold highway funds.

Yea let's give the federal government more power. That's going so well right now.

  • motorest 11 hours ago

    > Yea let's give the federal government more power. That's going so well right now.

    Investing on a nation-wide infrastructure grid that fundamentally changes the nation's energy independence is hardly a reason to mindlessly parrot state rights cliches.

  • watwut 11 hours ago

    The current issue is the president ignoring legal limits of his power and breaking laws right and left. While his party cheers on.

    While useful parts of the federal goverment are destroyed, because they dont serve ultra rich.

    • globnomulous 9 hours ago

      In a way, the current administration perfectly demonstrates the value of a strong federal government: a kakistocratic, kleptocratic regime wouldn't dismantle the "administrative state" if it weren't an impediment to their criminality, incompetence, and rapacity.

atoav 12 hours ago

Isn't this lack of forward thinking somewhat the general problem now?

From an EU perspective the world as it has existed in the living memory is a world shaped by decisive US-actions. The way EVs have been approached were anything but that. Arguably neither did Germany, because of the way their politicians are entangled with the car manufacturers.

  • bgnn 11 hours ago

    Germany actively hampered it by promoting diesel as THE greeen fuel.