Comment by zapzupnz
Comment by zapzupnz 3 months ago
> For who? UK users?
Literally every TikTok user from around the world? There's more than just the US, UK, and China, y'know.
Comment by zapzupnz 3 months ago
> For who? UK users?
Literally every TikTok user from around the world? There's more than just the US, UK, and China, y'know.
TikTok content is mostly visual. My YouTube shorts are frequently foreign language with AI subtitles.
Also, TikTok is banned in India and—ironically—China [1].
There will be a small category of content that will disappear. For instance, my fyp was full of Chinese fashion content (by choice) so I'm sure there are other categories of content that non-Americans consume that are American. Whether it's Movies or Music or whatever.
> Why would that criteria matter when what we are discussing is the impact when you remove a country’s creators from a platform?
That country’s creators belong to the largest native-speaking bloc of the most-commonly spoken language (native or not) in the world.
That doesn't sound accurate. Did you mean as a first language?
A quick search seems to confirm this. A few sites list the number to be around ~1.3 billion people who speak English at all, with around ~360-380 million being native speakers. For example: https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/how-many-people-speak-eng....
> first language?
1/3 of the global population is at all, there’s only 380 million native English speakers.
US, UK, Canada, Australia is where you find the bulk of native speakers. In say Germany or whatever they may become fluent but it’s relatively rare for German parents to be speaking English to each other in casual conversation next to an infant’s crib.
> there’s only 380 million native English speakers
Not how a lingua franca works.
There are 1.5 to 2 billion English speakers [1]. By far the largest number of people to speak a single language. Most of them are in America [2]. (If you count English learners, No. 2 is China [3].)
[1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/english-today/articl...
[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-speaking_world
[3] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236986651_The_stati...
>>> 2/3 of the global population doesn’t speak English.
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> there’s only 380 million native English speakers.
So? Having only 1/3 of the planet speak English natively is not the same as 2/3 of the planet not speaking English at all.
There are only about 400 million native English speakers. You can't just add up the population of English speaking countries, because that excludes immigrants living in these countries, and people born there who did not learn English as their first language.
As for people who learned it later, even in Europe, only about 40% self-identify as being able to speak English. If you visit places like China or Indonesia, you'll soon notice that very few people know more than a few basic words in English once you leave the tourist areas.
IMO first-or-not is moot. It’s estimated that around one billion people speak English to a reasonably fluent level. Included in that is many of the commonwealth countries in which English often holds second spot as a lingua franca (eg. India). It’s an incredibly global language.
I don't think anyone disputes that it is an incredibly global language. I certainly don't.
this is horseshit. Canada, the US and the UK alone have - minimum - 400 million. Australia has 25 million, Ireland 5, New Zealand 5, then there's the Anglophone African nations, plus a lot of the Carribbean. Nigeria on its own likely has 100 million native speakers of English
That’s at all, there are only ~380 million native English speakers.
Of that 1/3 (of the global population) a significant percentage have extremely limited skills, though the threshold is above knowing a few random words.
If they are native English speakers, then how do they have extremely limited skills?
> Including people who speak English as a second language, estimates of the total number of Anglophones vary from 1.5 billion to 2 billion
wikipedia. You are a bit off...
As for native you have US+UK+Canada+Australia+NZ+Ireland. So more then your 380M.
I think they meant that because content is siloed already by language barriers, the only ecosystem that would be affected by the removal of US users is the English-speaking subsystem.
That said, the English-speaking world clearly extends well beyond the US and English commonwealth countries nowadays. Also, a lot of videos don't have any dialogue and can also cross the language barrier.