Comment by raincole

Comment by raincole 3 months ago

63 replies

> This is going to be an interesting experiment: A widely used social network across the world WITHOUT american content.

For whom? UK users?

TikTok users who use the Chinese version are not consuming content from US creators. They won't notice this ban at all.

zapzupnz 3 months ago

> For who? UK users?

Literally every TikTok user from around the world? There's more than just the US, UK, and China, y'know.

  • nfw2 3 months ago

    I think they meant that because content is siloed already by language barriers, the only ecosystem that would be affected by the removal of US users is the English-speaking subsystem.

    That said, the English-speaking world clearly extends well beyond the US and English commonwealth countries nowadays. Also, a lot of videos don't have any dialogue and can also cross the language barrier.

  • Retric 3 months ago

    2/3 of the global population doesn’t speak English.

    • JumpCrisscross 3 months ago

      TikTok content is mostly visual. My YouTube shorts are frequently foreign language with AI subtitles.

      Also, TikTok is banned in India and—ironically—China [1].

      [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_TikTok

      • Retric 3 months ago

        A valid point, but I doubt people are going to notice if “clips of people slipping on ice” suddenly exclude Americans post 2024.

        • yamazakiwi 3 months ago

          There will be a small category of content that will disappear. For instance, my fyp was full of Chinese fashion content (by choice) so I'm sure there are other categories of content that non-Americans consume that are American. Whether it's Movies or Music or whatever.

    • gkbrk 3 months ago

      English is literally the most commonly spoken language in the world. No language in the world will fit your criteria if you want more than two thirds of the global population to speak it.

      • Retric 3 months ago

        Why would that criteria matter when what we are discussing is the impact when you remove a country’s creators from a platform?

    • lelanthran 3 months ago

      That doesn't sound accurate. Did you mean as a first language?

    • shortrounddev2 3 months ago

      As their first language, perhaps

      • InsideOutSanta 3 months ago

        There are only about 400 million native English speakers. You can't just add up the population of English speaking countries, because that excludes immigrants living in these countries, and people born there who did not learn English as their first language.

        As for people who learned it later, even in Europe, only about 40% self-identify as being able to speak English. If you visit places like China or Indonesia, you'll soon notice that very few people know more than a few basic words in English once you leave the tourist areas.

      • Retric 3 months ago

        That’s at all, there are only ~380 million native English speakers.

        Of that 1/3 (of the global population) a significant percentage have extremely limited skills, though the threshold is above knowing a few random words.

tbeseda 3 months ago

> TikTok users who use the Chinese version

The what now? There are no Chinese nationals using TikTok. It's banned there. Like it's now banned in the US.

  • jamesgeck0 3 months ago

    Douyin is TikTok. Before all the drama started, it was the same software powered by most of the same backend servers.

    • throwawayq3423 3 months ago

      Douyin is a fundamentally different product. Different content, less addictive, etc.

    • azernik 3 months ago

      Approximately zero people outside of China use Douyin.

      If you are in Brazil or the Philippines or Germany, you're using TikTok.

mvdtnz 3 months ago

Ah yes, USA, UK and China. The 3 countries that exist.