Comment by spencerflem
Comment by spencerflem 4 days ago
Facebook is extremely censored re: the genocide in Gaza
TikTok is not
Comment by spencerflem 4 days ago
Facebook is extremely censored re: the genocide in Gaza
TikTok is not
No, I do not think China's bugaboos are allowed on TikTok for the exact same reason the US's are not allowed on Facebook
I mean, I've seen plenty of dissenting material against the powers-that-be on Meta platforms over the years, but okay.
Police brutality (both viewpoints), COVID conspiracies, election conspiracies, etc. are not particularly hard to find on there.
Yes? I've seen plenty of Facebook posts about how CEOs are greedy, criminal, ripping us all off, etc. I'm really not sure how you could have gotten the impression that it's not allowed to talk about CEOs on Facebook.
Wait, but I like the issue being amplified. Do you not?
there's a billion people on facebook, i am sure people talk about it
It's possible, but ultimately it's hard to tell, especially in regard to the American users.
The results of the election would point to the idea that most American voters aren't so perturbed by what's happening in Gaza as to want an administration that would be at least as effective in reeling in the Israelis as the Biden administration was. Whether that's right or wrong, well, that's another discussion.
It's a chicken-or-the-egg problem. Do people not talk about Gaza on Facebook because it's censored, or do people not talk about Gaza on Facebook because no one was talking about it to begin with?
Which party should I vote for to help the people of Gaza?
The Biden administration was obviously not effective at reeling in Israel at all.
>that most American voters aren't so perturbed by what's happening in Gaza as to want an administration that would be at least as effective in reeling in the Israelis as the Biden administration was.
It's not hard to be at least as capable as somebody who's completly incapable. Think what you will of Trump, but in one meeting he had a solid deadline for implementing the ceasefire agreement the Biden admin has had floating since May. There weren't even any changes to it, so what the heck has Biden been doing?
tiktok is extremely censored re: genocide in xinjiang. facebook is not.
Great, so we have TikTok where we can access information that's being censored by the West, and Facebook to access information that's being censored by the East. What's the problem? Information wants to be free.
Not disagreeing, that's exactly my point, the govt wants to be able control the narrative
There are places in the west where you risk losing your job just by mentioning the ongoing genocide that is happening now in Gaza. I'm not defending the CCP in any way, it's just that power corrupts and abuse of power happens pretty much everywhere.
i feel that we overuse the word genocide nowadays, in a way that almost amounts to holocaust trivialization
if this is referring to Gaza, many Holocaust experts are willing to call what's happening there a genocide
i think i’m pretty clearly referring to Xinjiang.
if the Rohingya genocide is a genocide, then I can see the case for Gaza (the UN definition of genocide is quite broad) - but still feel that there should be a word distinguishing the stuff that happened in the Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide from less systemic killings occurring in the background of conflict. A lot of the power of the word “genocide” comes from the implicit comparison to the Holocaust, but none of the events we are discussing really come all that close barring Rwanda.
Yeah when the Palestinians say they want to murder all the Jews that's what genocide is. When there are no Jewish people in Palestine because they killed them all, that's what genocide is. If people didn't hate Jews and support terrorism, Palestinians wouldn't be dying. When Arabs are allowed to vote, participate in government, and join the military, that's the opposite of what genocide is.
Yep. The Chinese state is guilty of a number of things in Xinjiang, but genocide is not one of them.
fair. they are guilty of arresting specific ethnicity for the crime of gathering in groups, and targetting men and forbidding men to have children, and forcing women to take han husbands to dilute their ethnicity. but not genocide.
Trump won, the Russian misinformation campaign is over now. You can stop making stuff up about Jews now.
Is it censored, or do most people just not talk about it on Facebook?
It's interesting how incredibly supportive of human rights that a platform in bed with the CCP became, no? Do you think that China's human rights bugaboos are often discussed on their internal social networks?
It's amplified.