Comment by aucisson_masque

You don't. Google backup is partial and very limited compared to what apple does, plus privacy issues and you don't get access to app folder without root. (I know about adb but then you can't push the files back there).

So it's a shitshow as usual with Android, it all depends on the app. My weight lifting app it can backup on Google cloud. Great. My 2Fa on the other hand it only backup to the 'external' storage, need to transfer it to the computer then. Some app don't have backup option. Some app give backup option but then break when you restore it, like moon reader. Some books just disappeared from the backup.

And so on, and so on.

At the end I focus on photo, obsidian vault and 2fa. Everything else is just bonus if I backed it up.

dismalaf 8 days ago

Last time I had an Apple device the only way to backup was plugging it into a desktop with iTunes.

How do you figure Google's backup (which backs up contacts, messages, photos, mail, and remembers which apps you have installed) is bad? What more could it do or should it do in your opinion? Also Google Authenticator now backs up to your account and you can recover it through a logged in browser.

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scarface_74 8 days ago

> Last time I had an Apple device the only way to backup was plugging it into a desktop with iTunes.
That hasn’t been true since 2011 with iOS 5.
I remember it well. I upgraded my iPhone 4 on AT&T with iOS 5 using iTunes. Shortly afterwards, I had an iPhone 4s shipped to me from Verizon.
I logged into my Apple account on my iPhone 4s and after it restored everything, it looked and worked just like my iPhone 4 with all of the settings and app icon positions bring in the same place.
There is also internal app data that gets backed up

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eadmund 8 days ago

> How do you figure Google's backup (which backs up contacts, messages, photos, mail, and remembers which apps you have installed) is bad?
It uses Google. I have servers, desktops, laptops and phones, all of which are computers and all of which are on a local network. It should be possible for me to move all the data on my phone to a server, desktop, laptop or other phone without once sending a single byte outside of my network.

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K7PJP 8 days ago

> Last time I had an Apple device the only way to backup was plugging it into a desktop with iTunes.
Apple's supported full iCloud backups and over-the-air restore for at least 11 years, maybe 13 years.

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- dismalaf 8 days ago
  
  Yeah, I would have figured. My actual question is how is Google's backup lacking?
  
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  fragmede 8 days ago
  
  to be clear Apple's "full" icloud backup is full in name only. if you get a new iphone and do a backup and restore, expect to spend several more hours setting up various apps and details on your new device. you'll have to log in to your apps on the new device and setup things there if the app doesn't work with iCloud's backup mechanism.
  it might be better than android's backup system, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.
  
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  Krutonium 8 days ago
  
  It backs up... Photos, basically? With an iPhone you can take a complete image of the device, and never lose a file again. With Android, solid chance you'll never migrate to a new phone and not lose stuff. It's such a fucking shitty thing that doesn't need to be.
  
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XorNot 8 days ago

Yeah Google's implementation here objectively sucks.

I should be able to toss my phone in a river, buy a new one and get it back exactly the way it is.

Syncthing handles the stuff which matters to me, but it can't get apps back exactly the way they were.

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