fragmede 8 days ago

to be clear Apple's "full" icloud backup is full in name only. if you get a new iphone and do a backup and restore, expect to spend several more hours setting up various apps and details on your new device. you'll have to log in to your apps on the new device and setup things there if the app doesn't work with iCloud's backup mechanism.

it might be better than android's backup system, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

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  • seb1204 8 days ago

    Yep, Signal is not backed up via iCloud for example

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  • xuki 8 days ago

    It's a feature, not a bug. Apps like banks or Signal don't want to get backed up as it's a security risk if someone could just duplicate the authentication.

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    • josephcsible 8 days ago

      The owner of a phone should be able to back up all of the data on it, regardless of the wishes of anyone who doesn't own said phone.

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      • xuki 8 days ago

        I don't disagree, but I vote with my wallet. If the owner of the phone doesn't agree with that, they could stop using the phone/apps. Similarly the biometric data also doesn't get backed up or transferred over to a new phone. That's a product decision and I'm just explaining why things are done that way on iOS.

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Krutonium 8 days ago

It backs up... Photos, basically? With an iPhone you can take a complete image of the device, and never lose a file again. With Android, solid chance you'll never migrate to a new phone and not lose stuff. It's such a fucking shitty thing that doesn't need to be.

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  • dismalaf 8 days ago

    I've gone through like 5 Android phones back to back. Photos, documents, emails, installed apps, contacts... It's all seamless and works, literally just with Google's defaults.

    What do you think you lose?

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    • kasabali 8 days ago

      App data. Play store simply reinstalls the apps but they're in a clean state. Some apps supposedly back up and restore their data from Google cloud but that's rare.

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      • dismalaf 8 days ago

        Honestly, I can't think of a single app that doesn't back up its own data. Meta apps have their own backup mechanism, games all backup either through their own servers or Play Games service, pretty much everything I use is a service of some sort.

        But yeah, I guess Google isn't backing up the state of the offline chess app I downloaded 10 years ago...

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