Comment by dismalaf

Comment by dismalaf 8 days ago

16 replies

Last time I had an Apple device the only way to backup was plugging it into a desktop with iTunes.

How do you figure Google's backup (which backs up contacts, messages, photos, mail, and remembers which apps you have installed) is bad? What more could it do or should it do in your opinion? Also Google Authenticator now backs up to your account and you can recover it through a logged in browser.

scarface_74 8 days ago

> Last time I had an Apple device the only way to backup was plugging it into a desktop with iTunes.

That hasn’t been true since 2011 with iOS 5.

I remember it well. I upgraded my iPhone 4 on AT&T with iOS 5 using iTunes. Shortly afterwards, I had an iPhone 4s shipped to me from Verizon.

I logged into my Apple account on my iPhone 4s and after it restored everything, it looked and worked just like my iPhone 4 with all of the settings and app icon positions bring in the same place.

There is also internal app data that gets backed up

eadmund 8 days ago

> How do you figure Google's backup (which backs up contacts, messages, photos, mail, and remembers which apps you have installed) is bad?

It uses Google. I have servers, desktops, laptops and phones, all of which are computers and all of which are on a local network. It should be possible for me to move all the data on my phone to a server, desktop, laptop or other phone without once sending a single byte outside of my network.

K7PJP 8 days ago

> Last time I had an Apple device the only way to backup was plugging it into a desktop with iTunes.

Apple's supported full iCloud backups and over-the-air restore for at least 11 years, maybe 13 years.

  • dismalaf 8 days ago

    Yeah, I would have figured. My actual question is how is Google's backup lacking?

    • fragmede 8 days ago

      to be clear Apple's "full" icloud backup is full in name only. if you get a new iphone and do a backup and restore, expect to spend several more hours setting up various apps and details on your new device. you'll have to log in to your apps on the new device and setup things there if the app doesn't work with iCloud's backup mechanism.

      it might be better than android's backup system, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

      • seb1204 8 days ago

        Yep, Signal is not backed up via iCloud for example

      • xuki 8 days ago

        It's a feature, not a bug. Apps like banks or Signal don't want to get backed up as it's a security risk if someone could just duplicate the authentication.

    • Krutonium 8 days ago

      It backs up... Photos, basically? With an iPhone you can take a complete image of the device, and never lose a file again. With Android, solid chance you'll never migrate to a new phone and not lose stuff. It's such a fucking shitty thing that doesn't need to be.

      • dismalaf 8 days ago

        I've gone through like 5 Android phones back to back. Photos, documents, emails, installed apps, contacts... It's all seamless and works, literally just with Google's defaults.

        What do you think you lose?