remram 2 days ago

Whatever words you're reading when you look at mine might be incredible, what I wrote is almost 3000 wounded in the crossfire, including children.

You're ignoring that and pretending they're accused of something else. Why?

  • whacko_quacko 2 days ago

    Almost 3000 wounded are not a problem if they're Hezbollah, no? The child is tragic of course, but one dead child when targeting enemy soldiers is more ethical than the dead children in deliberate attacks on civilians, which is what Hezbollah is doing.

    Why are you pretending otherwise? Is it the bigotry of low expectations? Arabs/Muslims can act very reasonable and humane too, so there's no reason to measure them with a different yard stick

    • remram 2 days ago

      > Almost 3000 wounded are not a problem if they're Hezbollah, no

      They are a problem in both cases. Stop the whataboutism.

  • snovv_crash 2 days ago

    Why are you assuming those 2700 people weren't Hezbollah? Who else was carrying the pagers to avoid Israel location tracking?

    • easyThrowaway 2 days ago

      Anyone who got resold / loaned those devices, those who were next to blast radius of those devices while going with their lives, any relatives who were unfortunate enough of having an hezbollah member in their family.

      This is basically just one step above a chemical attack, and can only be excused as "the end justifies the means" by the interested parties.

      • whacko_quacko 2 days ago

        Why would you use 80s technology that allows you to circumvent Israeli tracking, and get that from Hezbollah if you're not in cahoots with them? People in Lebanon can afford smart phones.

        With the people next to the blast radius you have a point, but when targeting guerilla fighters that blend in with civillian populace it's hard to not inadvertantly target innocents too. But a small explosive device that is used by enemy soldiers and kept close to their bodies is the best way to avoid innocent casualties.

        Also, Hezbollah hiding between innocents doesn't mean Israel shouldn't defend themselves. If you hide behind civillians you're the one to blame for casualties, not the party that defends against you

      • alickz 2 days ago

        > Anyone who got resold / loaned those devices

        Aren't the pagers specifically for transmitting Hezbollah instructions / orders?

        Why would a Hezbollah member sell/loan such a device to a non-Hezbollah member?

    • remram 2 days ago

      Yes I'm assuming not every Lebanese is a terrorist, which seems to be problematic to some. In particular 8-year-old children are probably not.

  • mupuff1234 2 days ago

    I'm confused, how do you know the 99% of those wounded aren't Hezbollah operatives?

    How many innocents would get harmed during a more conventional military strike against the same group of operatives?

    I would be fairly surprised if Hezbollah opsec guidelines didn't say that you must have the pager at you at all times, and make sure it can't be accessed by others.

    • thret 2 days ago

      This is likely the most precise large scale military strike of all time. You can't control for everything - some pagers might have been in the hands of innocent people - but it sure seems like an ideal attack vector.