Comment by bluefishinit
Comment by bluefishinit 3 days ago
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Comment by bluefishinit 3 days ago
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>> They set these off in public spaces and private residences. There are already reports that Israel murdered a 10 year old girl with this attack. Absolutely horrible.
People tend to do whatever they want when they’re raised since birth to believe everybody that is not one of their in-group is a quite literal subhuman not chosen by god
HN tries to really avoid this kind of discussion since it never goes anywhere productive. Folks who have really strong views on Israel/Gaza are not going to change their perspective because of a comment thread on Hacker News.
In this case, they were posting information what was apparently perfectly accurate (except as to the exact age of the girl who was killed in the attack) - per CNN:
At least nine people, including an 8-year-old girl, have been killed by Tuesday’s pager explosions, Lebanon’s health minister Firass Abiad said in an interview with Al Jazeera.
From my understanding of the HN guidelines, a technical discussion around the technology in this story is not an issue. Where things break down is when people starting talking about Israel vs Palestine, who is at fault, who should be punished, who is the true aggressor, etc.
I'm ready to believe you but the impression I have from your comment is that it would take quite a bit to convince you to take a step back from your personal beliefs and re-evaluate.
It doesn't even matter what you believe, based on what you wrote, my impression is that you are here to convince others that your viewpoint is correct, not necessarily to gain a new one.
I am curious how would you conceal an explosive in an electronic device (like a pager) to make sure that it minimizes collateral damage when it goes off. That is a political question since you ultimately are making a human life vs military objective trade-off.
The international law standard seems to be proportionality to the military objective desired, so maybe no one (generally) cares how many civilians die if you know the targets will be high ranking.
The original post is from the Times Of Israel. It's literally propaganda, we can at least discuss the content no?
The ugly question is how much collateral is fine. Hezbollah confirmed the deaths of 3 people, two of its fighters and this girl. Of course, this will surely escalate the war between Israel and Hezbollah so its surely negative even if the collateral ends up being very low because Hezbollah received most of the pagers.