Comment by hyggetrold 3 days ago
HN tries to really avoid this kind of discussion since it never goes anywhere productive. Folks who have really strong views on Israel/Gaza are not going to change their perspective because of a comment thread on Hacker News.
From my understanding of the HN guidelines, a technical discussion around the technology in this story is not an issue. Where things break down is when people starting talking about Israel vs Palestine, who is at fault, who should be punished, who is the true aggressor, etc.
I'm ready to believe you but the impression I have from your comment is that it would take quite a bit to convince you to take a step back from your personal beliefs and re-evaluate.
It doesn't even matter what you believe, based on what you wrote, my impression is that you are here to convince others that your viewpoint is correct, not necessarily to gain a new one.
The facts are pretty overwhelming.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
This is important to me. How do we deal with more than 10% of the population of Gaza being killed?
For what it's worth, I have family members who are Palestinian, so I am deeply sympathetic to the plight of the innocent people dying in Gaza and the West Bank. I am not of Palestinian ethnic background myself (complex family history).
I believe the Israeli government and members of the IDF have done terrible things that they should be held accountable for. But I can't condemn the average citizen of Israel since I have no idea if they are for or against the war. I have enough Jewish friends and Israeli colleagues to know that there is a spectrum of opinion.
I also believe that organizations such as Hamas should be held accountable for the way the spend the lives of Palestinians in service of their greater cause. Some of the political leaders for the Palestinian cause use strong rhetoric while living comfortably far away from where the bombs are falling. And just like with Israelis, I have no idea what the average Palestinian believes about Israel, Hamas, or Hezbollah. I imagine there is a spectrum of opinion there as well.
I guess what I am trying to say is that it is possible for multiple truths to be operative at once.
In this case, they were posting information what was apparently perfectly accurate (except as to the exact age of the girl who was killed in the attack) - per CNN:
And indeed it was quite helpful that they did so, as this particular detail hasn't yet made it into the coverage of the event in major outlets such as the NYT, for some reason.