Comment by mannyv

Comment by mannyv 4 days ago

12 replies

Actually, it's also a miracle drug that can reduce inflammation and reduce the medication load of millions of people.

From what I've seen anecdotally, Ozempic adherence is much higher than most other meds. And the side effects are minor compared to, say, being 200 lbs overweight.

max51 4 days ago

>And the side effects are minor compared to, say, being 200 lbs overweight.

I was about the reply the same thing. Obesity is directly or indirectly a risk factor for almost every health problem imaginable.

Even for a situation that looks completely unrelated like getting shot in the knee by a gun, the risk of dying during the surgery will be significantly higher if you are obese.

wpm 4 days ago

People have a real hard time with harm reduction strategies and I don't really know why. Ego, sense of moral authority, bein just plain old mean?

I heard all the same crap when vaping became big 10 years ago.

outworlder 4 days ago

Given that >80% of Americans have some form of metabolic dysfunction, it's not surprising that those drugs are having miraculous effects.

blackeyeblitzar 4 days ago

That depends. A lot of people experience significant GI issues. And it isn’t clear yet if those issues are reversible after stopping. It’s still best for people to naturally control their weight and diet. Is one better than the other - depends on how overweight and how severe the side effects. Right now I feel like there isn’t much focus and rigorous study of those side effects but over time I expect it will reduce the overall positives of the drug somewhat.

  • djur 4 days ago

    "A lot of people experience significant GI issues. And it isn’t clear yet if those issues are reversible after stopping."

    I don't think there's any reasonable definition of "a lot" where this is true. A significant number of people experience GI issues. Most of them subside after a time. There is some evidence that a small number of people may experience more severe GI issues that don't go away after stopping.

    "It’s still best for people to naturally control their weight and diet."

    What is your evidence for this? Right now, it's looking like the "unnatural" GLP-1 agonists are racking up quite a score against "natural" methods like "willpower" and programmed diets. It's not a useful distinction, in any case. These medications cause reduced calorie consumption, and reduced calorie consumption causes weight loss naturally.