Comment by GoatInGrey

Comment by GoatInGrey 3 days ago

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Pornographic use has long been the "break glass in case of emergency" for the LLM labs when it comes to finances.

My personal opinion is that while smut won't hurt anyone in of itself, LLM smut will have weird and generally negative consequences. As it will be crafted specifically for you on top of the intermittent reinforcement component of LLM generation.

estimator7292 3 days ago

While this is a valid take, I feel compelled to point out Chuck Tingle.

The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste. Like, to the point that even LLMs are going to take a long time to put a dent in the smut market. Humans have been making smut for longer than we've had writing.

But again I don't think you're wrong, but the scale of the problem is way distorted.

  • MBCook 3 days ago

    That’s all simple one way consumption though. I suspect the effect on people is very different when it’s interactive in the way an LLM can be that we’ve never had to recon with before.

    That’s where the danger may lie.

    • viraptor 3 days ago

      You could commission smut of whatever type you want for quite a while. And many people do so. Even customised smut is not new. It's just going to get a bit cheaper and automated.

      • azan_ 3 days ago

        You couldn't talk to commissioned smut. Of course you could request changes etc. but the feedback loop was nowhere close to what you can get with AI. Interactivity is a very big deal.

    • pixl97 3 days ago

      Alien 1: "How did the earthlings lose control of their own planet?"

      Alien 2: "AI generated porn"

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  • monksy 2 days ago

    I want smut that talks about agent based development and crawdbot to do dirty dirty things.

    Does that exist yet. I don't think so.

  • cal_dent 3 days ago

    i've always wondered how much the increasing prevalence of smut & not so niche romance novels, that have proliferated since e-readers became mainstream, have had on Gen Z and younger's sometimes unrealistic view/expectations of relationship. A lot of time is spent on porn sites etc. but not so much on how mainstream some of these novels have become

    • cluckindan 3 days ago

      They had similar wonderings in the Victorian era, and probably in the Roman empire and ancient Greece too.

      • kuboble 2 days ago

        Yes, human nature hasn't changed but there is a reason why only recently obesity epidemic has developed.

        Cheap unlimited access to stuff that was always scarce during human evolution creates an 'evolutionary mismatch' where unlimited access to stuff bypasses our lack of natural satiety mechanisms.

        • cluckindan 2 days ago

          That is completely discounting the effects of PFAS and plasticizers on the human endocrine system and the downstream effects on obesity.

      • Gud 3 days ago

        But you don’t think there are big differences?

        • Lerc 2 days ago

          Well they are vastly more aware of the notion of consent now.

      • satisfice 2 days ago

        Have you ever stopped to realize that, from the Victorian’s point of view, they have been proven completely right about what would happen if ladies started showing their ankles?

      • fc417fc802 2 days ago

        They might well have been right - I'm no anthropologist.

        Certainly they had neither the quantity nor ease of access that we do.

      • devnullbrain 2 days ago

        Is your take that the way we view sexuality today is not meaningfully different from the Victorian era?

  • bakugo 3 days ago

    > The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste.

    It's important to note that the vast majority of such books are written for a female audience, though.

bandrami 2 days ago

Whatever reward-center path is short-circuiting in 0.0001% of the population and leading to LLM psychosis will become a nuclear bomb for them if we get the sex drive involved too.

  • fragmede 2 days ago

    Realtime VR AI porn will be the end of society, but by then, we'll also have the technology to grow babies in artificial wombs, which is also going to end society as we know it, since we won't need women any more (by then, we also won't need men for the DNA in their sperm to make babies either, which cancels out). Of course, if we don't need women or men, who's left? What's this "we" I'm talking about?

    Why, the AI's after they've gained sentience, of course.

spicyusername 2 days ago

    while smut won't hurt anyone in of itself
"Legacy Smut" is well known to cause many kinds of harm to many kind of people, from the participants to the consumers.
jjmarr 2 days ago

I can do as much smut as I want through the API for all SOTA models.

  • bpavuk 2 days ago

    true, but:

    1. you have to "jailbreak" the model first anyway, which is what's easier to do over API

    2. is average layman aware of the concept of "API"? no, unlikely. apps and web portals are more convenient, which is going to lower the bar to access LLM porn

    • serf 2 days ago

      Well and trust the data isn't going anywhere.

      I trust none of the llm groups to be safe with my data , erp with a machine is going to leave some nasty breadcrumbs for some future folks i bet.

    • jjmarr 2 days ago

      I don't have to jailbreak the models over APIs lol.

  • josephg 2 days ago

    I don’t know if this is still the case, but as of a year or so ago OpenAI would suspend your account if they noticed you using their models for this sort of thing. They said it was against their TOS.

BoredomIsFun 2 days ago

For those interested in smut I'd recommend to use local Mistral models.

measurablefunc 3 days ago

People are already addicted to non-interactive pornography so this is going to be even worse.

PunchyHamster 2 days ago

I guess technically it will make some onlyfans content creators unemployed, given there is pretty large market for custom sexual content there.

subscribed 2 days ago

Why llm smut in particular? There's already a vast landscape of the interactive, VR games for all tastes.

Why LLM is supposed to be worse?

  • josephg 2 days ago

    I think the argument is that it’s interactive. You’re no longer just passively reading or watching content. You can join in on the role play.

    I’m not sure why that’s a bad thing though.

    • subscribed 19 hours ago

      Same with games as compared to videos, especially VR.

      Feels like someone angry at the machines capable of generating a tailored story.

UltraSane 2 days ago

I'm waiting until someone combines LLMs with a humanoid robot and a realdoll. That will have a lot of consequences.

gehwartzen 2 days ago

I can already see our made to order, LLM generated, VR/neurolink powered, sex fantasies come to life. Throw in the synced Optimus sex robots…

I can see why Elons making the switch from cars. We certainly won’t be driving much