Comment by estimator7292

Comment by estimator7292 3 days ago

31 replies

While this is a valid take, I feel compelled to point out Chuck Tingle.

The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste. Like, to the point that even LLMs are going to take a long time to put a dent in the smut market. Humans have been making smut for longer than we've had writing.

But again I don't think you're wrong, but the scale of the problem is way distorted.

MBCook 3 days ago

That’s all simple one way consumption though. I suspect the effect on people is very different when it’s interactive in the way an LLM can be that we’ve never had to recon with before.

That’s where the danger may lie.

  • viraptor 3 days ago

    You could commission smut of whatever type you want for quite a while. And many people do so. Even customised smut is not new. It's just going to get a bit cheaper and automated.

    • azan_ 3 days ago

      You couldn't talk to commissioned smut. Of course you could request changes etc. but the feedback loop was nowhere close to what you can get with AI. Interactivity is a very big deal.

      • goodmythical 2 days ago

        There are absolutely people getting paid to roleplay smut in chat sessions and have been doing so at least since original Second Life and likely since the dawn of chat.

      • formerly_proven 2 days ago

        There are several large platforms for interactive 1:1 or 1:few smut in various media forms. “LLM enthusiasts” have been using smutai for a couple years now. Smut generation is probably on of the top three reasons for people to build local AI rigs.

      • flarn2006 3 days ago

        Sounds like an improvement then. If people have more freedom to enjoy what they like how they like it, I see that as entirely a good thing.

        • intended 2 days ago

          At the degree of generalization you are working at, yes. More preference matching is a good thing.

          This is spherical cows territory though, so its only good for setting out Birds Eye view of principles.

  • pixl97 3 days ago

    Alien 1: "How did the earthlings lose control of their own planet?"

    Alien 2: "AI generated porn"

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monksy 2 days ago

I want smut that talks about agent based development and crawdbot to do dirty dirty things.

Does that exist yet. I don't think so.

cal_dent 3 days ago

i've always wondered how much the increasing prevalence of smut & not so niche romance novels, that have proliferated since e-readers became mainstream, have had on Gen Z and younger's sometimes unrealistic view/expectations of relationship. A lot of time is spent on porn sites etc. but not so much on how mainstream some of these novels have become

  • cluckindan 3 days ago

    They had similar wonderings in the Victorian era, and probably in the Roman empire and ancient Greece too.

    • kuboble 2 days ago

      Yes, human nature hasn't changed but there is a reason why only recently obesity epidemic has developed.

      Cheap unlimited access to stuff that was always scarce during human evolution creates an 'evolutionary mismatch' where unlimited access to stuff bypasses our lack of natural satiety mechanisms.

      • cluckindan 2 days ago

        That is completely discounting the effects of PFAS and plasticizers on the human endocrine system and the downstream effects on obesity.

    • Gud 3 days ago

      But you don’t think there are big differences?

      • Lerc 2 days ago

        Well they are vastly more aware of the notion of consent now.

    • satisfice 2 days ago

      Have you ever stopped to realize that, from the Victorian’s point of view, they have been proven completely right about what would happen if ladies started showing their ankles?

      • ecshafer 2 days ago

        They were right. We have largely had 200 years of socially and legally enforced morality being eroded with the conservatives saying "If you remove X then Y and Z will happen!". The liberals saying "Why do you care anyways? That's a slippery slope it won't happen!". The the conservatives immediately being proven right, but no one is willing to walk back on liberalization of moral issues since too many like hedonism.

      • Wowfunhappy 2 days ago

        ...sorry, I'm dense apparently, what did they predict vs what happened?

    • fc417fc802 2 days ago

      They might well have been right - I'm no anthropologist.

      Certainly they had neither the quantity nor ease of access that we do.

    • devnullbrain 2 days ago

      Is your take that the way we view sexuality today is not meaningfully different from the Victorian era?

bakugo 3 days ago

> The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste.

It's important to note that the vast majority of such books are written for a female audience, though.