Comment by mmustapic
Comment by mmustapic 4 days ago
Carrying a gun, or fleeing, is not punishable by death. In any decent country, of course.
Comment by mmustapic 4 days ago
Carrying a gun, or fleeing, is not punishable by death. In any decent country, of course.
Obviously there may be people who disagree about the facts of these cases. Trends, however, may bear more weight:
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-border-agents-i...
That article has a 404 link in the first paragraph, which probably used to link to this article: https://archive.is/RXVqn (https://archive.is/https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bord...)
This is Alex Pretti more than a week before the fatal event: https://youtu.be/r0L9JUjcwo0?t=597.
I'd forgive you for thinking they were accidents if you hadn't seen the videos or heard them described to you. They were cold blooded murder.
Uh huh. It seems to be a small proportion of American man-children that don't understand what's happening, the rest of the world sees it plain as day. Anyway, you obviously didn't actually watch the videos. Try opening your fucking eyes next time.
They were not accidents. No one accidentally draws, aims a gun and shoots. If that whole sequence is accidental, that person shouldn't be in charge of a weapon.
The shooting part was the accident. Of course you draw and aim a gun if you're detaining someone who also has a gun.
(to the sibling, mmustapic)
What I'm saying is that he did have a gun, this particular gun was taken away, then he was apparently reaching for something else, which may have been mistaken for a gun, hence the shot. Or, the officer fired at him for some other suspicion. Regardless, you don't have perfect information in a situation like this. The guy wasn't behaving peacefully either.
My suggestion would be to obey orders, don't bring weapons to protests, don't resist when you're being detained. And so on.
He was apparently grabbing something, which was said to be a phone.
I personally would have just been entirely still right from the moment the detainment process started.
These were accidents, not court proceedings where you have weeks or months to think things over.
My prediction is that if you investigate them, then in the case where the woman was trying to drive away, the officer likely has no fault at all, as the drive may have easily be interpreted as driving towards him. On the armed protestor occasion, there might be some fault as the gun seemed to have gone off unexpectedly. But it won't be punished too hard, if at all, as the victim was actively escalating the situation.
These weren't punishments ("death sentences" as someone else called them). These were accidents where the victims themselves were (mostly) at fault.