Comment by fidotron

Comment by fidotron 3 hours ago

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You are deliberately missing the point. The EU would have continued to conveniently ignore VW diesel emissions had the US, a competing power, not pointed them out.

> Instead the EU levied their own fines against VW including a €875 million fine in 2021.

Only because the US found them out. The EU was quite happy with VW until then, and liked to act all smugly superior about emissions.

> When can we expect the US to slap X with a multi-million dollar fine?

For what exactly? What US laws have X, under Musk, broken?

morsch 2 hours ago

Per capita emissions in the US are what, twice as high as in the EU? And given that the US is ruled for the foreseeable future by outright climate change denialists, that's unlikely to change.

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exceptione 2 hours ago

These are all unsubstantiated vibes. My advice is to exchange fido for intellego.

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CrossVR 2 hours ago

You are the one who's deliberately missing the point. The EU accepted the findings from the US and took regulatory action.

Whereas the US ignores the findings from the EU, refuses to take regulatory actions against big tech, enacts sanctions against EU officials and calls for the disbandment of the entire union.

A bit of an overreaction at the very least wouldn't you say?

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  • fidotron 2 hours ago

    What are you on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/24/uk-franc...

    That's the UK, France and Germany lobbying to keep the emissions tests inadequate so VW can continue.

    > Whereas the US ignores the findings from the EU

    What findings? That X acts as a forum for openly contradicting centrally decreed EU dogma and thus needs to be shut up? That's not a winning argument.

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    • CrossVR 2 hours ago

      You're still missing the point. Imagine an alternate reality where the EU denied any of the US findings and instead backed up VW in their assertions they've done no wrong. They then levied sanctions against multiple senators that advocated in favor of the Clean Air act and called for the US to disband.

      Does that sound reasonable?

      > That's the UK, France and Germany lobbying to keep the emissions tests inadequate so VW can continue.

      I'm sure there are many states within the U.S. that are currently lobbying for even less regulation of Big Tech.

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      • fidotron 2 hours ago

        The US found VW breaking US and EU laws. The EU has found [tech cos] supposedly breaking EU laws only and keep inventing nonsense to try and force their ideals on the rest of the world. It's boring, hence the (minor) sanctions on these individuals to get them to stop wasting everyone's time.

        If the EU want to block parts of the Internet off then go for it. Just don't pretend it's everyone else's fault that it's embracing mass censorship and that this is in any way compatible with the values of the enlightenment.

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amarcheschi 2 hours ago

You're talking as if eu officials knew about vw hiding its emissions

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