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Comment by franciscop 2 days ago

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> Apple today released iOS 26.2, iPadOS 26.2, and macOS 26.2

For those as confused as me, I'm on macOS 15.6.1, and it seems for the next version they aligned everything and I do indeed see an update for "macOS Tahoe 26.2". However, I also see a Sequoia 15.7.3 update dated at the same time and together in the same upgrade blog post (and for Sonoma 14.8.3, kudos), so for those that doesn't seem to want to do the jump now into Liquid Glass, that seems available:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/100100

Note: I had to click the [i], then unselect the "macOS Tahoe 26.2" and select the "macOS Sequoia 15.7.3" manually to avoid a full upgrade.

plodman 2 days ago

There appears to be a dark pattern occurring where the Tahoe update is selected by default and you need to uncheck it to just install the security update.

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  • schmuckonwheels 2 days ago

    Is there a new technological space race between Microsoft and Apple, to see who can engineer more dark patterns into their software, forcing unwanted updates onto its users?

    These techniques used to be exclusive to spyware distributors.

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    • DamnableNook a day ago

      Yes, it’s “spyware” to want you to update an OS. That’s definitely the definition of that. Good job for decoding conspiracy.

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  • DavideNL 2 days ago

    Details: https://daringfireball.net/2025/11/software_update_tahoe_con...

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    • JumpCrisscross 2 days ago

      "Leon Cowle was brave enough to try this out, and, it turns out, just clicking the 'Update Now' button next to Sequoia will, thankfully, do the right thing: install the Sequoia 15.7.2 update, not Tahoe."

      This suggests someone forgot to update the "ⓘ" text. Not a dark pattern.

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  • layer8 2 days ago

    It’s the same on iPad. You get a notification about 18.7.3 being available, but when tapping on it, the update screen preselects 26.2.

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  • LeoPanthera 2 days ago

    Offering the most recent update first is not a "dark pattern".

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  • jeffbee 2 days ago

    That is not what "dark pattern" means.

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    • fuzzy2 2 days ago

      No, I would certainly say it is. Checking the blog post linked in this thread, I find selecting a different version to be both hidden and also have (intentionally?) bad UX. That is exactly what a dark pattern is: making a surprising choice (major upgrade) the default while hiding away the less disruptive or even non-disruptive choice (minor upgrade).

      Nothing stops Apple from advertising both at the same level.

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      • jeffbee 2 days ago

        That's ridiculous. Like, not even rising to the level of being worth arguing about. There's an entire book that defines dark pattern, you should probably go read it if you intend to use the phrase.

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    • avazhi 2 days ago

      Uh, yeah it is?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern

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      • hombre_fatal 2 days ago

        No, because following major software updates is the right thing for 99% of people, not staying behind on a previous major version with security updates.

        You have to think about UX for 99%, not just for HNers who might know what a 15.7.3 is.

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      • jeffbee 2 days ago

        Having a default choice is not itself a dark pattern. Offering a free update to the latest version of the project, and a choice to update a branch release instead, does not constitute a dark pattern.

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        • avazhi a day ago

          The dark pattern emerges when you mislead the user about what they’re clicking. Deception in the UI is by definition a dark pattern.

          Weird hill for you to die on given that dark patterns have been specifically legislated for in many jurisdictions and have a clear definition.

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void-pointer 2 days ago

How can I install iOS 18.7.3? The settings app only shows 26.2 which I do not want to install.

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  • jagged-chisel 2 days ago

    Give it a couple days for 18.7.3 to show up (I’m trying this myself) or download the ipsw for ios 18.7.3 and use a computer to install.

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    • tech234a 2 days ago

      I don't believe an IPSW for 18.7.3 was released except for devices that couldn't upgrade to iOS 26. I believe this is done to prevent downgrades.

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    • layer8 2 days ago

      Apple doesn’t provide IPSWs once the next major version has launched. OTA is the only option.

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    • void-pointer 2 days ago

      You can also join the iOS 18 public beta to get the update.

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      • 1over137 2 days ago

        How do you do that? And do you need an AppleID to do so?

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