Comment by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2

Comment by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2 days ago

'I wouldn’t personally be able to sleep knowing I’ve contributed to all of that, too.'

I think this is the crux of the entire problem for the author. The author is certain, not just hesitant, that any contribution they would make to project involving AI equals contribution to some imagined evil ( oddly, without explictly naming what they envision so it is harder to respond to ). I have my personal qualms, but run those through my internal ethics to see if there is conflict. Unless author predicts 'prime intellect' type of catastrophe, I think the note is either shifting blame and just justifying bad outcomes with moralistic: 'I did the right thing' while not explaining the assumptions in place.

balamatom 2 days ago

>I have my personal qualms, but run those through my internal ethics to see if there is conflict

Do you "run them through" actual ethics, too?

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2 days ago

See.. here is a problem. You say 'actual' ethics as if those were somehow universal and not ridiculously varied across the board. And I get it, you use the term, because a lot of readers will take it face value AND simply use their own value system to translate them into what agrees with them internally. I know, because I do the same thing when I try to not show exactly what I think to people at work. I just say sufficiently generic stuff to make people on both sides agree with a generic statement.
With that said, mister ants in the pants, what does actual mean to you in this particular instance?

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- balamatom 2 days ago
  
  I don't know about ants (or pants) but
  > I try to not show exactly what I think to people at work. I just say sufficiently generic stuff to make people on both sides agree with a generic statement.
  basically the ethics of anyone who doesn't this
  
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  A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2 days ago
  
  Uhh.. do we really want to do ethics 101 ( and likely comparative religions based on your insisting all ethical considerations are universal across the human experience )? Please reconsider your statement, because it is not 'basically'; not by a long shot.
  
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nharada 2 days ago

I don't really take your point here? You're saying you feel the author should justify the reasoning behind their moral position?

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2 days ago

:D no, but it would help if I knew what that moral objection is

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- johnnyanmac 2 days ago
  
  Its been 3 years and its been the most talked about topic on HN. If you really don't know at this point, you are choosing to remain ignorant. I can't help you here.
  If you genuinely are unaware of the issues, it's a very easy topic to research. Heck, just put "AI" into HN and half the articles will cover some part of the topic.
  
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  hu3 2 days ago
  
  Not your parent commenter but there are multiple points of views, both positive and negative about AI and it's impact. Some in-between.
  Should we try to guess which of of the many objections belong to the author?
  It's better to ask than to assume.
  
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  johnnyanmac 2 days ago
  
  >It's better to ask than to assume
  I didn't see that commentor truly asking. I can ask them, but I know that the topic will have dried out by the time o get an answer.
  
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