Comment by skeeter2020

Comment by skeeter2020 2 days ago

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>> even when mine (that they had already approved) would save them 400K a year

You learn lessons over the years and this is one I learned at some point: you want to work in revenue centers, not cost centers. Aside from the fixed math (i.e. limit on savings vs. unlimited revenue growth) there's the psychological component of teams and management. I saw this in the energy sector where our company had two products: selling to the drilling side was focused on helping get more oil & gas; selling to the remediation side was fulfill their obligations as cheaply as possible. IT / dev at a non-software company is almost always a cost center.

hylaride 2 days ago

> You learn lessons over the years and this is one I learned at some point: you want to work in revenue centers, not cost centers.

The problem is that many places don't see the cost portions of revenue centers as investment, but still costs. The world is littered with stories of businesses messing about with their core competencies. An infamous example was Hertz(1) outsourcing their website reservation system to Accenture to comically bad results. The website/app is how people reserve cars - the most important part of the revenue generating system.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32184183

  • georgeecollins 2 days ago

    > You learn lessons over the years and this is one I learned at some point: you want to work in revenue centers, not cost centers.

    Best advice I got in school is -- at least early in your career-- work in the main line of business for your company. So if you are in marketing, work for a marketing firm, an accountant, work for an accounting firm.. etc. Video game designer: work for a video game developer.

    Later you can have other roles but you make your mark doing the thing that company really depends on.

    • martinpw a day ago

      > Best advice I got in school is -- at least early in your career-- work in the main line of business for your company

      Related advice I got - work in the head office for your company if possible. Definitely turned out to be a good call in my case as the satellite offices closed one by one over time.

biztos 2 days ago

I would go further and say that even at software companies, even for dev that goes directly into the product, engineering is often seen as a cost center.

The logic is simple, if unenlightened: "What if we had cheaper/fewer nerds, but we made them nerd harder?"

So while working in a revenue center is advantageous, you still have to be in one that doesn't view your kind as too fungible.

  • mosura 2 days ago

    Yeah these days if it isn’t ops to bring in revenue it is seen as cost.

arthurfirst 2 days ago

>> even when mine (that they had already approved) would save them 400K a year You learn lessons over the years and this is one I learned at some point: you want to work in revenue centers

Totally agree. This is a big reason I went into solutions consulting.

In that particular case I mentioned it was a massive risk management compliance solution which they had to have in place, but they were getting bled dry by the existing vendor, due to several architectural and implementation mistakes they had made way back before I ever got involved, that they were sort of stuck with.

I had a plan to unstuck them at 1/5 the annual operating cost and better performance. Presented it to executives, even Amazon who would have been the infr vendor, to rave reviews.

We had a verbal contract and I was waiting for paperwork to sign... and then Feb 2020... and then crickets.

wesammikhail 2 days ago

I work as a consultant and tend to focus on helping startups grow their revenue. And what you're saying here is almost word for word what I often recommend as the *first thing* they should do.

In many cases I've seen projects increase their revenue substantially by making simple messaging pivots. Ex. Instead of having your website say "save X dollars on Y" try "earn X more dollars using Y". It's incredible how much impact simple messaging can have on your conversion rates.

This extends beyond just revenue. Focusing on revenue centers instead of cost centers is a great career advice as well.