Comment by squigz

Comment by squigz 3 days ago

12 replies

It's really disheartening that the culture has changed so much someone would think doing AoC puzzles just for the fun of it is an unpopular stance :(

Doing things for the fun of it, for curiosity's sake, for the thrill of solving a fun problem - that's very much alive, don't worry!

Waterluvian 3 days ago

Eliminating the leaderboard might help. By measuring it as a race, it becomes a race, and now the goal is the metric.

Maybe just have a cool advent calendar thingy like a digital tree that gains an ornament for each day you complete. Each ornament can be themed for each puzzle.

Of course I hope it goes without saying that the creator(s) can do it however they want and we’re nothing but richer for it existing.

  • wging 3 days ago

    That 'digital tree' idea is similar to how AoC has always worked. There's a theme-appropriate ASCII graphic on the problem page that gains color and effects as you complete problems. It's not always a tree, but it was in 2015 (the first year), and in several other years at least one tree is visible. https://adventofcode.com/2015

  • squigz 3 days ago

    > By measuring it as a race, it becomes a race, and now the goal is the metric.

    It becomes a race when you start seeing it as a race :) One can just... ignore the leaderboard

    • amiga386 3 days ago

      I've ignored the leaderboard for its entire existence, as the puzzles release at something like 4AM-5AM in my timezone; there's no point getting up 4 hours early, or staying awake 4 hours after bedtime, for some points on the internet.

      Instead, getting gold stars for solving the puzzles is incentive enough, and can be done as a relaxing thing in the morning.

      No matter what you do, as the puzzles get harder, you won't solve them in a day (or even a lifetime) if you don't come up with good algorithms/methods/heuristics.

    • m000 3 days ago

      I disagree. Having a leaderboard also leaks into the puzzle design. So the experience is different, even if you choose to ignore the leaderboard as a participant.

      • orphea 3 days ago

          > Having a leaderboard also leaks into the puzzle design.
        
        Is it your opinion? Can you give an example? Or did Eric say that?
    • Waterluvian 3 days ago

      That’s also completely true and something I often say about gaming. You don’t like achievements? Just don’t do them. Your enjoyment shouldn’t be a function of how others interact with the product.

      • Almondsetat 3 days ago

        "Just ignore it" doesn't work, psychologically.