Comment by embedding-shape 4 hours ago
> However, the lyrics are shown because an action is the user so, shouldn't be the user be liable instead?
Same goes for websites where you can watch piracy streams. "The action is the user pressing play" sounds like it might win you an internet argument, but I'm 99% sure none of the courts will play those games, you as the operator who enabled whatever the user could do ends up liable.
> I think that is completely different. Piracy websites do only one thing. Chatbots are different.
Well...YouTube is liable for any copyrighted material on their site, and do 'more than one thing'
Not really. Youtube is not liable as long as they remove the content after a copyright complain and other mechanisms.
The problem is if OpenAI is liable for reproducing copyrighted content, so will be other products such as word processors, video editors and so on. So, as society where we will put the line?
Are we going to tolerate some copyright infringement in these tools or are we going to pursue copyright infringements even in other tools as we already got the tools to detect it?
We cannot have double standards, law should be applied equally to everyone.
I do think that overall making OpenAI liable for output is a bad precedent, because of repercusions beyond AI tools. I'm all fine with making them liable for having trained on copyrighted content and so on...
How does OpenAI being liable for reproducing copyrighted material imply that a word processor should be as well? Last time I checked, word processors don't have a black box text generator trained on pre-existing works: a word processor only has the text that the user types into it.
> Not really. Youtube is not liable as long as they remove the content after a copyright complain and other mechanisms.
They have to take action precisely because they're liable for the material on their platform.
I think that is completely different. Piracy websites do only one thing. Chatbots are different.
My concern is that where are we going to put the line: If I type a copyrighted song in Word is Microsoft liable? If I upload a lyric to ChatGPT and ask it to analyze or translate it, is it a copyright violation?
I totally understand your line of thinking. However, the one I'm suggesting could be applied as well and it has precedents in law (intellectual authors of crimes are punishable, not only the perpetrators).