Comment by reboot81
Comment by reboot81 a day ago
Apple obeys the law. Policians set the law. You vote for politicians.
So nu, it makes no sense to blame Apple here.
Comment by reboot81 a day ago
Apple obeys the law. Policians set the law. You vote for politicians.
So nu, it makes no sense to blame Apple here.
The right way to respond to this reality would be to stop UK government from being insane by electing a more sane government. Stopping using iphones is going to help only for a short term - once encryption is de-legalized, they will come for everybody who they deem worth coming for, sooner or later. If it'll require introducing licenses to run encryption software and mandating key escrow, they'd do that. Yes, you still would be able to sneak in encrypting software on USB drive hidden in your... let's say, pocket. But the mere fact of using it would make you a criminal then. That's the natural progression of where it is going, unfortunately.
That isn't a reasonable response because governments can't be changed in a whim and aren't controlled by a single person, two good things.
UK government had been consistently working in this direction for decades. It's not "on a whim", it's a known and consistent policy, and yet there's no substantial resistance and pushback. The only reasonable conclusion is that the majority of the population is OK with what's going on.
> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.
I don't think there's any blaming of Apple going on here. This is about dealing with the practical realities of the circumstances for people in the UK.
It must be nice to live somewhere that has politicians that represent the will of the people enough to have a take like this. Where I live, your vote only counts if you have enough money.
You're asking for a monkey's paw.
The current ruling party in the US has given its voters exactly what they think they wanted, and it's a fucking disaster.
My day-to-day life has never been impacted by who is in the White House. Where is the disaster?
My peaceful, law abiding neighbors were taken away by ICE thugs in a totally unnecessary military style raid in my upper-middle-class suburb. Absolutely no due process. Their autistic, profoundly disabled child was left alone, scared and unable to understand what was happening. After over a month of detention, the neighbors were released. Turns out they weren’t so dangerous after all.
This, to me, is a fucking disaster.
Yes yes, it's only a problem if it affects you.
Utterly tedious.
Because no matter who they vote for, they get this. The previous ruling party hasn't had a real primary since 2008 (and didn't even go through the motions in 2024.) H. Clinton makes a fairly good case that even that one was fixed (because they knew the best horse to bet on.)
No matter who you vote for you get Hillary Clinton's governance, though. She's become very complimentary about Trump's foreign policy.
Wrong or painfully naive. Politics has to deal with realities. If the net wasn't engineered to be resistant to censorship, we probably wouldn't even be talking accross borders right now.
Eh, the whole "de-Brand" lingo comes from "de-Googling" which has unambiguously blamed Google for the act. The use of the same type of terminology automatically implies the same set of circumstances.
When you say "time to de-CocaCola" while all soda products are susceptible to a certain health hazard, you can't say "Obviously, CocaCola isn't being blamed here".
The analog of your example would be "time to get out of the cloud" for the article.
Apple obeys the law. They operate in countries where you can not vote.
England has been speedrunning the dystopian surveillance police state for a while now, through numerous governments. Voting is pointless.
Same (but different) in Denmark where politicians vote to give themselves more money[1], snoop on everything[2], violate our constitution unpunished[3], delete evidence of corruption[4], open the borders[5], etc. etc. etc. I used to care - a lot - I really did. But I'm done.
[1]https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/ny-aftale-politikeres-loen... [2]https://www.justitsministeriet.dk/pressemeddelelse/i-dag-tra... [3]https://www.information.dk/indland/2020/12/jurister-ja-grund... [4]https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/politisk-flertal-presser-m... [5]https://integrationsbarometer.dk/tal-og-analyser/INTEGRATION...
it keeps people divided and against each other, rather than united against the rulers
Did you read the article? She doesn't blame Apple.
Sixth paragraph: "But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me."
> Apple obeys the law
No, they don't:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45854441
I think it’s a stretch to say the author is blaming Apple in the title and she explicitly calls out in the very first section:
> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.
Unlike most writing about politics, the article isn't arguing that 'those are the bad people over there'. The article describes a current aspect of reality and how it came about, and suggests a way of responding to that reality.