neilv 4 days ago

Where can I get 15% annualized returns, please?

(I'm told to no longer bet on even averaging 7% annually, over decades, on US stock indexes.)

  • a96 3 days ago

    15% yield would be a hell of an arbitrage opportunity if you could get a sensible loan to go along with that.

neucoas 4 days ago

Commenter just discovered that there are other countries and economic realities outside the US/Europe

roberdam 4 days ago

11% is a safe interest rate on my country (py), I just got a 14.5% offer for local bonds BBB+

  • wara23arish 4 days ago

    stay vigilant Lebanon was granting 12% rates and everything was fine and “covered” by central bank until it wasnt

  • mlok 4 days ago

    py = Paraguay, for those like me who didn't know

  • Galanwe 4 days ago

    > 11% is a safe interest rate on my country

    11% may be the safest bond you have access to, but that doesn't make it _safe_ in absolute terms.

    • roberdam 4 days ago

      up to 30k, cover 100% by the central bank

      • estsauver 4 days ago

        So, bonds basically all tend to converge on the same risk adjusted yield. If you're seeing yields that look like this, the market believes the currency will slip or there's repayment risk (relative to USD bonds that are in the 4.75% range.)

        Imagine you have a scenario where inflation is 0 in currency A and 10% in currency B. Would you rather have a 2% bond in currency A or a 9% bond in currency B? This is why Euro bonds go negative sometimes, when USD interest rates were very low and the Euro was deflationary relative to the dollar, it could push rates even further lower.

      • Galanwe 4 days ago

        Look, you do you, but rest assured that you don't get 11% for no reason.

        • roberdam 4 days ago

          I wrote an article (it's in Spanish) in which I took data from the central bank since 1990 and created a tool to simulate various scenarios. The tool includes a column showing the average interest rates on central bank-backed investments. Maybe you might find it interesting. https://roberdam.com/jubilar.html

  • Jommi 4 days ago

    the issue is your local currency will lose its value over time

    • triceratops 4 days ago

      Is there a (government-issued) currency that doesn't?

      • lucb1e 4 days ago

        It's not an inherent feature, but they steer it in such a way so, no, there isn't (at least not for long), unless someone would make a good case for it at some point in the future

        The interesting question would be what their currency, where this 11% is offered, typically loses year-on-year