gruez 2 days ago

It's a solid piece of silicon encased in epoxy, so there's nothing really to get crushed. Contrast this to something like a cellphone that's made of hundreds of separate parts and has void space that will get crushed.

  • chrsw 6 hours ago

    Are consumer grade cards really reliable though? Not so much against physical damage, but of data integrity over extended periods? "Industrial" SD cards can be 10 times or 100 times more expensive than consumer grade cards.

  • MBCook 6 hours ago

    So were the flash chips on the SSDs they found. It didn’t save them.

  • hinkley 5 hours ago

    Say for argument’s sake there was a small air bubble in the resin. Couldn’t that result in cavitation?

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  • amelius 11 hours ago

    Why isn't a cellphone filled with epoxy?

    • tom_alexander 10 hours ago

      How would you do screen replacement? That is a common repair since people drop their phones and currently you can get your phone repaired by some teenager in a booth at the mall. If you fill the phone with epoxy, how are you detaching the screen, and getting a new ribbon cable through the epoxy?

      • GMoromisato 5 hours ago

        So what if you can't replace a screen on an epoxy-filled cell phone? That's a small price to pay for knowing that your camera will survive if you take a one-way trip to crush-depth.

        • blackoil an hour ago

          Is this sarcasm? 99.999% people will never take it beyond a meter in a pool.

      • justsomehnguy 8 hours ago

        Just like they do it today - a lot of grinding, swearing and overall understanding what the civilization is going in not quite the right direction.

    • orbital-decay an hour ago

      Filling dive watches with oil (hydro modding) is pretty popular. It mainly helps with visibility but also increases the depth rating.

    • userbinator 10 hours ago

      I'm sure there are some companies who want to do that, as long as they can convince people it's better for security or something.

    • jjk166 10 hours ago

      When was the last time your phone stopped working due mechanical PCB damage?

      Typically the limiting factor on your phone is the screen breaking, your battery life getting too short, wear and tear on components like buttons or the charging port, and factory defects. Epoxy isn't going to help with any of those. The only thing it would help with is exposure to water, but if other parts of your phone like your screen aren't water proof, what's the point?

      Epoxy adds weight and manufacturing cost. It introduces design challenges as you need to balance the thermal expansion of the various parts. It's an extra step that can go wrong, and makes repair of other defects far more difficult. What benefit is there for the typical consumer that outweighs these costs?

      • withinboredom 8 hours ago

        To add to that. My son got his phone caught in a reclining chair without realizing it. The fact that the phone bent in half instead of destroying the chair is a nice bonus. Replacing the phone was cheap, replacing a chair would not have been — yes, both are insured, but replacing/repairing a chair takes a hell of a lot longer.

    • 0_____0 9 hours ago

      The GoPro Session actually took this tack to achieve waterproofness without a secondary case.

    • Aurornis 8 hours ago

      The heavy components on a cell phone PCB are reinforced with spot applications of adhesive to the PCB.

      Filling the entire cell phone with epoxy wouldn’t help. The parts that break on drops are external like the screen.

      This SD card was enclosed in a sealed metal container so it wasn’t exposed to water.

    • dotancohen 10 hours ago

        > Why isn't a cellphone filled with epoxy?
      
      Added cost and weight are two things that would put off consumers. The phone would also be neigh irreparable, but consumers don't seem to care for that other than replacing their screen.
      • rob74 8 hours ago

        OTOH, adding epoxy on top of everything else would probably only reduce their iFixit repairability score from 1 to 0, so...

      • amelius 10 hours ago

        A conformal coating wouldn't give much more weight.

    • scrumper 9 hours ago

      Well, most cellphones aren't subjected to the conditions found under three miles of frigid sea water. Epoxy is also really, really expensive.

    • loloquwowndueo 8 hours ago

      Because then it gets a 0/10 repairability score on ifixit :)

      • matheusmoreira 2 hours ago

        That can be avoided by filling it with a fluid that the repairman can simply drain instead.

        People hydromod digital quartz wristwatches by filling them with oil. This gives them truly absurd water resistances and even improves the readability of the screen somehow.

    • numpad0 10 hours ago

      It's just not necessary, while having reliability problems of its own.

    • Towaway69 9 hours ago

      Thermal concerns perhaps - how does epoxy dissipate heat?

      • amelius 8 hours ago

        Some types of epoxy actually conduct heat quite well.

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    • marcosdumay 7 hours ago

      Imagine how much drama they could have avoided if they filled the entire submersible.

    • bell-cot 11 hours ago

      That would be a problem for the mic and speaker, and has relatively few use cases.

  • pfdietz 9 hours ago

    This comment made me wonder how much easier proximity fuzes would have been to develop in WW2 had they had transistors (or integrated circuits). I assume making modern solid state electronics 20,000g shock resistant is much easier than doing the same to vacuum tubes.

    • MadnessASAP 9 hours ago

      No need to wonder, proximity fuzes are still used today. And yes, they are much smaller, cheaper, more reliable, and precise.

  • dylan604 9 hours ago

    So that's the next phase of making devices thinner? /s

imploded_sub 2 days ago

It wasn't in the crushed part, it was in the camera's shell, and the camera was mounted outside, if I understood properly.

  • netsharc 2 days ago

    And:

    > This still and video camera is rated to withstand depths up to 6,000m (19,685 feet, 3,281 fathoms)

    Unlike the Titan sub...

  • 3eb7988a1663 10 hours ago

    The picture looks like the camera + storage SD card were in a sealed metal tube that was untouched.

    • HPsquared 8 hours ago

      It clearly received a nasty shock when the sub imploded; that's why the internal components were so broken.

    • daemonologist 8 hours ago

      Although the entire enclosure was shaken around enough to tear bits off the PCB via sheer inertia and crack the CPU (hence the need for the recovery process described).

userbinator 10 hours ago

Heat and wear are the greatest dangers to flash memory, and this was found in a cold dark place, with presumably plenty of life remaining.

stefan_ 11 hours ago

The SDCard that was in another sub, properly constructed from titanium not carbon. The sub housed a camera, no humans.

reaperducer 10 hours ago

It continues to amaze me how indestructible SDCards are.

Until they're sold as supplemental hard drives (cough Transcend Jetdrive cough). Then they'll fail if you even look at them strangely.

  • Gigachad 10 hours ago

    Put one in a Raspberry pi and it will be dead in a month.

    • foobarian 5 hours ago

      remember the noatime mount option for the root fs!

gompertz 2 days ago

It also amazes me how incredibly unbrowseable tomshardware is now with all the ads and pop-ups.

  • haunter 11 hours ago

    It also amazes me that people are using the internet w/o an adblocker in the year 2025

    • Gigachad 10 hours ago

      I haven’t bothered working out how to install one on mobile. I just don’t visit websites with shitty ads.

      • pajamasam 9 hours ago

        Just use the Brave browser. No plugins necessary.

        • qingcharles 4 hours ago

          It has poor compatibility on the iOS version that I've got installed, sadly.

      • squigz 10 hours ago

        Firefox on mobile supports uBlock Origin

    • 1oooqooq 10 hours ago

      i was also in shock, then someone reminded me there are iphone users.

      the horror.

      paying thousands of dollars just to be forbidden to block ads.

      • haunter 9 hours ago

        ?

        There are countless free and paid options on iOS too

        Firefox Focus, Brave

        AdGuard Pro, $9.99 once and you can use any blocklist you want (you can just copypaste from uBlock Origin if you wish) and it works system-wide with Safari

        etc

      • jamiek88 9 hours ago

        what? there are many fantastic ad blockers on ios. Weird thing to crow about.

  • pwg 10 hours ago

    With UblockOrigin blocking the ads, there were no ads and pop-ups.

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