Comment by sky2224

Comment by sky2224 a day ago

6 replies

I get what you're saying, but the problem is the software does 90% of what I want really well and I like that they do that 90% super well and I want to keep that.

In your Windows vs. Linux example, Linux just doesn't do a lot of things very well on the UI/UX side of things (e.g., window management, driver support, an out of the box experience). Knock Windows all you want, but it honestly does quite a few pretty important things very well.

So that's why I'll spend some time to resist the negative changes.

ObscureScience a day ago

>In your Windows vs. Linux example, Linux just doesn't do a lot of things very well on the UI/UX side of things (e.g., window management, driver support, an out of the box experience).

That judgement confuses me a lot. Window management, drivers and out of the box experience has been much better in Linux for the last 10 years in my experience. Sure, there are some companies that don't ship drivers for Linux or the configuration software is not fully fledged. Window management has almost always been better in Linux, but of course depends on the WM. Windows innovated one nice feature in Vista (aero snap) which most desktop environments has implemented since.

If you install Fedora, Ubuntu or Linux Mint, what are you lacking from that out of the box experience? Generally no driver installation needed, and no cleaning up of bloatware.

  • sky2224 17 hours ago

    With regard to window management, this will certainly depend on the distro. Ubuntu's WM has been quite good I'll admit, but that seems to have occurred in only pretty recent versions in the past 5 years or so. My previous experience with Ubuntu had the window management closer to the experience that MacOS provides (albeit slightly better). Ultimately, this point is subjective, so maybe it wasn't the best example.

    Driver support is still a very big problem in my opinion, especially if you're a laptop user. There was a lot of tweaking with power configuration that I needed to do to prevent my laptop running Ubuntu 22.01 from dying in 2 hours. Additionally, trackpad drivers were horrendous, which made two-finger scrolling next to impossible to do with any sort of accuracy. Hardware accessories like printers, keyboards, etc. are still a gamble.

    You're right though that it has gotten a lot better, but it's these little things that prevent most users from making the switch.

  • Kwpolska a day ago

    Have you ever used Linux with high DPI monitors? Windows handles them OK since Windows Vista, and really well since 8. I've seen the classic Windows XP bug of measurements not being scaled and labels being cut off on modern Linux.

    How about mixed DPI multi monitor setups? Great since Windows 10. On Linux, you're screwed. X doesn't support this. Wayland does, but not all apps work well with that, and not all apps and GPUs support Wayland.

    • omnimus a day ago

      This is a bit outdated i run mixed multi monitor setup and for last year or two it has been working no issues. Linux moves slowly but steadily and things eventualy get pretty great (another example sound and pipewire).

      I think people make mistake of trying Ubuntu LTS thats super conservative with updates so you are years behind. For desktop you really want Fedora or something even more up to date. I think people sould try Fedora silverblue or its derivatives (bazzite, bluefin) its “atomic” distros that cannot be easily broken (steamos does the same).

      • Kwpolska a day ago

        I have tried this a year or two ago, with something that was not LTS. I was using KDE though, maybe GNOME is a bit less broken in that regard (but is in others).

    • tpxl a day ago

      > How about mixed DPI multi monitor setups?

      I've been using this since at least 2019, it's been fine. The only two issues are the mouse doesn't (always) align when moving across monitors and having a window across the display border has one side stretched, but why would you have windows like that?