Comment by fidotron

Comment by fidotron 14 hours ago

20 replies

RISC-V implementations are going to prove to be absolute patent minefields.

Just because something is open source will not stop you from being stung during manufacturing, rather like how Android deployments are not free.

ryao 14 hours ago

So far, patent lawsuits have been more of a problem for those using ARM designs (Qualcomm) than those using RISC-V designs. The Raspberry Pi foundation, Western Digital and Nvidia have successfully put RISC-V designs into their products without any issues. The first two even made their core designs open source (see Hazard3 and SweRV).

  • fidotron 14 hours ago

    How are SiFive going to protect their IP when everyone is free to copy it?

    Patents.

    • RetroTechie 14 hours ago

      You're not free to copy SiFive's IP cores.

      Open ISA != all implementations of it are free (although in RISC-V case, many are).

      • fidotron 13 hours ago

        Sorry, that was poorly worded.

        My point is that if RISC-V takes off people will struggle to do decent implementations of it without stepping on the toes of the people already in the area.

        I'd go so far as to say this is the entire SiFive strategy.

    • ryao 14 hours ago

      Anyone is free to make a RISC-V CPU without infringing on SiFive’s IP.

      • fidotron 14 hours ago

        Which in practice will mean free to make simplistic implementations using the lessons of twenty years ago.

        If this was a winning strategy those open source implementations of SuperH cores would have been incredibly popular instead of dying in obscurity.