Comment by ryao

Comment by ryao 14 hours ago

19 replies

So far, patent lawsuits have been more of a problem for those using ARM designs (Qualcomm) than those using RISC-V designs. The Raspberry Pi foundation, Western Digital and Nvidia have successfully put RISC-V designs into their products without any issues. The first two even made their core designs open source (see Hazard3 and SweRV).

fidotron 14 hours ago

How are SiFive going to protect their IP when everyone is free to copy it?

Patents.

  • RetroTechie 13 hours ago

    You're not free to copy SiFive's IP cores.

    Open ISA != all implementations of it are free (although in RISC-V case, many are).

    • fidotron 13 hours ago

      Sorry, that was poorly worded.

      My point is that if RISC-V takes off people will struggle to do decent implementations of it without stepping on the toes of the people already in the area.

      I'd go so far as to say this is the entire SiFive strategy.

      • ryao 13 hours ago

        RISC-V already has taken off. There are billions of RISC-V cores shipped in consumer products every year. Adoption outside of the embedded MCU space is slower, but that is natural. Your FUD about SiFive is absurd. Hardware patents related to CPU design are typically ISA independent.

  • ryao 13 hours ago

    Anyone is free to make a RISC-V CPU without infringing on SiFive’s IP.

    • fidotron 13 hours ago

      Which in practice will mean free to make simplistic implementations using the lessons of twenty years ago.

      If this was a winning strategy those open source implementations of SuperH cores would have been incredibly popular instead of dying in obscurity.

      • ryao 13 hours ago

        SuperH is owned by Hitachi. You cannot use them without a license from Hitachi as far as I know. RISC-V is unique in that its creator permits anyone to make and use RISC-V cores royalty free. It also supports 64-bit, which SuperH never did.

        In any case, you should probably stop writing before you shove your foot any deeper into your mouth.