Comment by mattlondon

Comment by mattlondon 17 hours ago

4 replies

Well they can't fire you totally on the spot in the UK, but I believe they can put you on immediate "gardening leave" where you lose all access to systems and buildings etc. You'll still get paid and are still technically employed, but you'll not be working on anything and can't go to the office.

I think there is some expectation for gardening leave to be available for the odd call or meeting for doing handovers etc, but realistically I don't think anyone would expect a disgruntled suddenly-made-redundant employee to really do that with any gusto or enthusiasm.

atomicnumber3 13 hours ago

"you'll still get paid and are still technically employed, but you'll not be working on anything and can't go to the office."

Oh noooooooooo, anything but that!

Joking aside, seriously, part of why this is all so traumatizing in the US is because the second you know you're getting laid off, you're not even thinking about the job or anything anymore. You're trying to guess how much COBRA is going to be and hoping you don't get seriously ill in the next N months.

Seriously, COBRA is often so fucking expensive that being laid off doesn't just mean loss of income, it means literally suddenly getting a NEGATIVE paycheck each month, as you now have to cover the % of the healthcare plan your employer was paying for. If I got laid off right now, i'd immediately start paying about $6000/mo for my current policy under COBRA. Then, if you do need to use it, it's still got a deducible and coinsurance!

So yeah, that's why summary dismissal is so painful in the US.

  • Tokumei-no-hito 11 hours ago

    that has to be a typo. 6 thousand a month (72k/year) on insurance??

    • atomicnumber3 8 hours ago

      I think i multiplied a bit too aggressively in my head. I think it'd be more like 2.5k/mo. I'm out of pocket $900/mo right now, and I think that's less than half, because my employer covers 100% of my premiums and 50% of the family premiums. So double that 900, and then add me in.

mytailorisrich 17 hours ago

You can actually be fired on the spot, this is called "summary dismissal", but only applies in case of gross misconduct, so the cases that become "office lore" ;)