Comment by fastball

Comment by fastball a day ago

28 replies

Could you give an example of behavior that "directly" harmed yourself or others which caused you to sever ties?

Politics is almost always indirect, usually with multiple levels of indirection.

Philpax a day ago

People proudly voting for parties and policies that demonise trans people, of which I know many. I cannot be your friend in good conscience if you're willing to destroy the lives of my other friends.

  • bigstrat2003 a day ago

    That is, by definition, indirect. So that doesn't qualify as "directly harming" anyone, even if your analysis of those policies is otherwise accurate.

    • HDThoreaun 13 hours ago

      No it isn’t. When people see the anti trans party winning elections they see that as permission to bully trans people. The vote directly leads to abuse.

      • fastball 7 hours ago

        Yes, it very much is indirect. Direct would be the "anti trans party" passing a law saying that you must bully trans people.

  • duckfan a day ago

    How are their lives being destroyed?

    Being told that you have to follow the same rules as everyone else for e.g. spaces designated to be used solely by the opposite sex, doesn't seem so bad.

    • Philpax a day ago

      I don't believe you're asking this question in good faith, but there are many, many attempts at erasing them from public existence: https://translegislation.com/

      • bakugo a day ago

        Please define "erasing them from public existence". Provide concrete actions that are actively being taken, not vague concepts of "bad things".

    • jccalhoun 19 hours ago

      This is an oversimplified strawman argument. Biological sex is a complex subject. The cultural understanding of sex is complex. If I has a man take my 2 year old daughter to the men's room is that a bad thing? (For the record I don't have any children)

      • duckfan 17 hours ago

        I don't think anyone is arguing that you should be barred from taking your hypothetical two-year-old daughter into the men's bathroom if the need arises. That's really not the issue.

StefanBatory 19 hours ago

I am bi, my "friends" would hate LGBT people, constantly talk how we're pedophiles and so on, and kept voting for parties against equal rights.

  • fastball 6 hours ago

    If your "friends" were calling you or your other friends pedophiles (and you are not) then yes, absolutely, you should not be friends with them.