Comment by Philpax

Comment by Philpax 7 days ago

29 replies

People proudly voting for parties and policies that demonise trans people, of which I know many. I cannot be your friend in good conscience if you're willing to destroy the lives of my other friends.

bigstrat2003 7 days ago

That is, by definition, indirect. So that doesn't qualify as "directly harming" anyone, even if your analysis of those policies is otherwise accurate.

  • HDThoreaun 7 days ago

    No it isn’t. When people see the anti trans party winning elections they see that as permission to bully trans people. The vote directly leads to abuse.

    • fastball 6 days ago

      Yes, it very much is indirect. Direct would be the "anti trans party" passing a law saying that you must bully trans people.

      • HDThoreaun 6 days ago

        Your definition of direct is terrible

duckfan 7 days ago

How are their lives being destroyed?

Being told that you have to follow the same rules as everyone else for e.g. spaces designated to be used solely by the opposite sex, doesn't seem so bad.

  • Philpax 7 days ago

    I don't believe you're asking this question in good faith, but there are many, many attempts at erasing them from public existence: https://translegislation.com/

    • bakugo 7 days ago

      Please define "erasing them from public existence". Provide concrete actions that are actively being taken, not vague concepts of "bad things".

      • Philpax 7 days ago

        I would recommend clicking on the link and scrolling down.

  • jccalhoun 7 days ago

    This is an oversimplified strawman argument. Biological sex is a complex subject. The cultural understanding of sex is complex. If I has a man take my 2 year old daughter to the men's room is that a bad thing? (For the record I don't have any children)

    • duckfan 7 days ago

      I don't think anyone is arguing that you should be barred from taking your hypothetical two-year-old daughter into the men's bathroom if the need arises. That's really not the issue.

      • jccalhoun 7 days ago

        but I thought "Being told that you have to follow the same rules as everyone else for e.g. spaces designated to be used solely by the opposite sex, doesn't seem so bad."?

        • duckfan 7 days ago

          Perhaps think on that a bit more then. Consider for example that female-only spaces don't exclude women who are pregnant with male babies.