Comment by zem

Comment by zem 2 days ago

40 replies

on the positive side, it's a small thing monetarily, but retention of company laptops is a nice goodwill gesture

icedchai 2 days ago

Many of them are fully depreciated and worth nothing, or nearly so, on paper anyway. Any new employees won't want an old laptop. And it will cost time and money to deal with shipping, storage, cleaning, re-imaging, etc. On average, the bean counters must figure it's cheaper to let people keep them.

rs186 2 days ago

Worth maybe $1000, not even half a month's rent in almost any major US city

  • anon7000 2 days ago

    They’re mostly high specced, newer M model MacBook pros

    • rs186 17 hours ago

      I suggest that you look up the price of second hand M2 Macbook Pros.

  • paulcole 2 days ago

    They do say they have employees in 90 countries…

bmulholland 2 days ago

Eh, from the company's perspective this is logistically easiest--the laptop's value is hardly worth the effort.

  • zem 2 days ago

    a lot of companies ask for equipment to be returned due to security concerns, or just on principle

    • jelder 2 days ago

      A company which is even moderately "OK" at IT will already have the means to instantly lock and securely wipe devices of any employee at a moments notice. Doing this during a RIF is a hell of a lot better than making the mail room deal with a bunch of filthy laptops.

      • oblio 2 days ago

        A large bunch of big companies, including some of the biggest on the planet don't even sell past-end-of-life laptops to their current employees.

        Let that sink in. They're not even willing to <<sell>> old laptops, they would rather scrap them and contribute to pollution and overall waste.

    • igleria 2 days ago

      klarna allowed us to buy our work phone and macbook paying only the tax value. We had to give them the devices so they would be wiped out by a third party, then they mailed them to my home.

      • OptionOfT 2 days ago

        MacBooks and iPhones are amongst the easiest to wipe remotely.

        You can wipe them fully (which would be the recommendation for MacBooks) and remove just work-installed apps on an iPhone.

        • kstrauser 2 days ago

          Absolutely. I was in charge of that at a previous job, and telling Jamf to nuke the device did the job the next time it was turned on.

      • runako 2 days ago

        This is a G move, without a doubt the best way I've heard of this being done.

    • AlotOfReading 2 days ago

      One former employer had this policy, and also refused to provide a way to ship said equipment back. No one was happy with my alternative solution: leaving it at the police station instead.

      • kstrauser 2 days ago

        Is that what you proposed or what you actually did? I want a story!

      • FireBeyond 18 hours ago

        A former employer said that FedEx shipping info would be attached to my separation email. It was not. I emailed the two people at HR who had been involved in my separation. Three times each. No replies.

        I still have the laptop. And a hard copy of the emails.

        Also, as an aside, it is ABSURDLY easy to bypass MDM and DEP on a Macbook Pro, even a later M series laptop. Absurdly so (anyone here could do it in about a minute or less, and have a de-MDMed, fully updatable, no weirdness laptop. Theoretically).

    • deelowe 2 days ago

      When I left microsoft, I kept everything EXCEPT data bearing devices. I got the sense they REALLY didn't want to have to collect the laptops either, but the VPs were forced to by compliance.

  • etchalon 2 days ago

    We always let our ex-employees keep their laptops because a. why not? and b. I don't need laptops for positions that no longer exist.

    • MDGeist 2 days ago

      I was at a company that let people keep laptops (after they were wiped) largely because the severance was so meager it seemed they expected people to sell the laptops for some extra cash. :p

      • dylan604 2 days ago

        doubtful it was considered extra cash, but just now not needing to spend cash on replacing the laptop with personal money

    • gopher_space 2 days ago

      “Welcome to your new job at HighSpeed TopFlight. Here’s an old, used laptop.”

      • ornornor 2 days ago

        I’ve had that happen to me at a new job. It disnt make my new employer shine.

        • gopher_space 2 days ago

          One of my key metrics for evaluating employers is Time To Second Monitor.

  • javawizard 2 days ago

    And yet only one company I've ever worked for went this way.

    I wish more did; it really is such a small goodwill gesture to departing employees.

slt2021 2 days ago

companies that collect their laptops from laid off => where do these laptops go? how they recycle them?

  • viraptor 2 days ago

    It's a huge "depends". Different areas have different recycling opportunities. Some hardware providers have their own buyback/replacement programs. Also some companies may want to reimage and reuse the returned hardware. Finally you want some stock of temporary laptops available for people who are waiting for repairs so some functioning used ones are great for that.

    • sgerenser 2 days ago

      Yeah at the BigCorps I was at, old laptops (as long as they weren’t more than 3-4 years old) were usually reimaged and kept on hand as spares or for interns, etc. But I imagine after a large layoff they ended up with way more than they’d ever actually need.

  • rs186 2 days ago

    Redistributing them to new employees/interns is very common, especially if the laptop is only 1-2 years old.