Comment by louthy

Comment by louthy 2 days ago

19 replies

> It's insane how the largest conflict in human history is just now passing out of living memory.

Don’t worry, there will be another one along any minute now.

slg 2 days ago

It seems more than coincidental that global fascism started to rise as soon as the generation that last defeated it had mostly died off.

  • hgomersall 2 days ago

    It's much simpler to think that as a society we've manufactured a similar set of circumstances to the last time. That is, a growing proportion of the population that feel they have very little and no prospects or hope.

    • ArnoVW 2 days ago

      I won’t enter into a conversation about inequality and social justice, even though there are indeed points to be raised.

      I would however like to point out that people are not only victims of society, and that they have a responsibility as a critical member of society and an elector. Historic awareness, understanding of economics, law and geopolitics.

      To give an example: Mr Trump was not just votes into office, but RE voted into office. His plan was public for all to see.

      More than 50% of American voters voted for him. I am having a difficult time to believe that 50%+ of the US are economically oppressed that had no choice but to vote for Trump.

      Inequalities exist but they do not justify everything, neither do they explain everything.

      • slg 2 days ago

        >More than 50% of American voters voted for him. I am having a difficult time to believe that 50%+ of the US are economically oppressed that had no choice but to vote for Trump.

        I think it's important to be accurate with this stuff. 49.8% of voters voted for Trump, approximately 32% of eligible voters voted for him, and roughly 23% of the population voted for him. Don't discount apathy, disillusionment, and disenfranchisement in all this.

      • robertlagrant 2 days ago

        Inequality is very different to no prospects, or no hope.

      • hgomersall a day ago

        You make an interesting point, but there's an issue that significant resources are put into making sure that people do not understand economics, law and geopolitics properly. Economics is particular egregious in that the academic discipline is, for the most part, complete horseshit, and popular economics is a bastardised version of that. Geopolitics is also filtered heavily through whatever lens one views it.

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slavik81 2 days ago

The American Revolution was 240 years ago. The US Civil War was 160 years ago. The Second World War was 80 years ago...

  • fifilura 2 days ago

    Feels like cherry-picking.

    WWII had very little to do with America in the sense that the American involvement was only a reaction to others messing things up.

    While the other two are purely American.

    • cguess 2 days ago

      WWII had little to do with America? Go look up lend/lease and then remember we were bombed by Japan. The US was intrinsically linked to WWII from the beginning, just not with troops on the ground.

      • fifilura 2 days ago

        Yes but the cause was not American. And USA was pretty reluctant to be dragged in (not Roosevelt but the voters).

        I am just pointing out that you can make up any list in hindsight and make it look like Nostradamus prophecies.

        Where is french revolution or the great war in that list?