Comment by amazingamazing
Comment by amazingamazing 3 days ago
I don’t understand the infatuation with blue sky. The minute they need money it’ll go the way of the Reddit and twitter.
Comment by amazingamazing 3 days ago
I don’t understand the infatuation with blue sky. The minute they need money it’ll go the way of the Reddit and twitter.
Not everything good becomes bad. That premise is wrong.
Bluesky accepted VC money. For a social platform that means its death certificate has already been signed.
What you're ignoring with that framing is that we can use social media that operates outside the VC startup pipeline and doesn't have enshittification baked in from the start.
The fact that you have to be on “the” relay to meaningfully participate on the network.
If you instead claim that users can always choose to use other 3P relays, then you immediately lose all the nice things that Bluesky is able to do well today (search, discoverability, a “discover” algorithm). Indeed, you fall back to the same old problems that every other decentralized social network has.
Bluesky is just a shittier version of Nostr, except that the people over at Nostr don’t pretend.
People seem to lark on and on about how it has better "default moderation" than Mastodon.
It's not that it is "better" but that the choice is individual, not up to the mastodon server. In Mastodon, you trade Elon for some other group of individuals, so what happens if they make decision on moderation or content you do not agree with?
ATProto is designed around accounts that are independent of data host, application, and moderation, all in the name of giving users individual control over these things. It's like if every Mastodon user ran their own server, but without the overhead
You have the opportunity to demonstrate this. I am banned from Bluesky. (They didn't tell me why - just a generic "you violated community guidelines")
Tell me, concretely, how people can choose to continue following me, even though I am banned.
Profile: immibis.bsky.social
Create an account you own instead of having someone else run it. Maybe you can get your data, maybe you can ask Bluesky for a review (there were bugs and scaling issues against bot networks that cause false positives)
I'm not seeing that handle resolve in the normal places. Do you have the DID? You should use a custom domain so that you can control the the reference and lookup.
You can run your own PDS and manage complete account lifecycle
Follow the instructions under "Self-hosting PDS" here: https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds
Are you suggesting the "big few" can't largely censor a given account?
I don't see how ATProto is doing noticeably better than the scenario where a large ActivityPub instance blocks your external account.
Generally, yes. Currently, because Bluesky requires the use of their labeler if you use their app, this could happen.
Two points of note
1. You can participate in Bluesky without the Bluesky app, so you can remove this requirement by using an alternative app
2. The most blocked account is blocked by around 0.25% of the full network (https://clearsky.app/)
This second point does not account for users banned from Bluesky by Bluesky for breaking the ToS or PDS abuse.
>It's like if every Mastodon user ran their own server
No, it's like every Mastodon user used the same server, and all the coordination is done by one server that nobody can replicate.
Every user in ATProto gets their own database that amounts to a tar file (technically sqlite with car export format)
This is nothing like having a single server for every user. Perhaps you are confusing Bluesky (one app) with ATProtocol the shared network? There are already independent servers and apps operating separate from Bluesky
Twitter was always... not great (there's a reason it was affectionately known as the Hellsite), but it had 16 years of being _tolerable_ for most people (the real exodus only really started with Musk's changes, though there had been a couple of smaller ones previously, mostly over Twitter messing with the API).
Frankly, if I get 16 years out of Bluesky before having to move onto the next one, I can live with that. Social networks _die_; it has always been so. USENET, livejournal, Tumblr, twitter... nothing lasts forever.
Bluesky's 'Discover' feed (the default algo feed that you get when you create your account) is based on _likes_, not follows, so if you never like anything you'll get random nonsense.
You can try using other algo feeds from here: https://bsky.app/feeds and remove the discover feed, or of course you could just use the chronological one.
If everything good is assumed to eventually become bad, why not use things while they are good and then immediately move on when it becomes bad?