Comment by fc417fc802 3 days ago
Are you suggesting the "big few" can't largely censor a given account?
I don't see how ATProto is doing noticeably better than the scenario where a large ActivityPub instance blocks your external account.
> does not account for users banned from Bluesky by Bluesky for breaking the ToS or PDS abuse.
Then you are missing the point. I am asking how much censorship power the largest node in the network has.
If being blocked by the largest provider means 95% of users can't see me anymore then the situation is strictly worse than Mastodon vs ActivityPub-at-large.
What did you do to get banned? Most people who make this claim are unwilling to share the behavior that led to it. Bans are not arbitrary, nor is anyone obligated to host or show your speech
ATProto is young compared to the alternatives, give the network time to build out an ecosystem and the resilience we need.
First you made incorrect and misleading statements. Then when I point it out you try to rhetorically shift blame on to me.
To answer your misleading and irrelevant question, I have never been banned by Bluesky. What did you do to get banned on Mastodon? Do you understand that "moderation" and "banned for violating the ToS" are one and the same?
ATProto is not any better than ActivityPub (ie Mastodon) regarding the impact of network effects on moderation. The "big few" retain their outsized influence with both protocols, at least as far as I am aware. If there is a technical misunderstanding about this on my part then do please point it out.
Moreover, the current situation is significantly worse on ATProto because the vast majority of the network currently relies on a single provider.
To be clear, I am not opposed to ATProto. I am only opposed to inaccurate technical comparisons.
Generally, yes. Currently, because Bluesky requires the use of their labeler if you use their app, this could happen.
Two points of note
1. You can participate in Bluesky without the Bluesky app, so you can remove this requirement by using an alternative app
2. The most blocked account is blocked by around 0.25% of the full network (https://clearsky.app/)
This second point does not account for users banned from Bluesky by Bluesky for breaking the ToS or PDS abuse.