Comment by yellow_lead
Comment by yellow_lead 20 hours ago
> The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive.
Source? I could only find this.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/08/1069527/china-ti...
Comment by yellow_lead 20 hours ago
> The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive.
Source? I could only find this.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/08/1069527/china-ti...
It’s not the same, no. I provided the link because it’s what I assume the OP is referring to.
Limiting use to 40 minutes is not a ban but it still shows a view that extended exposure to it is harmful. To turn it on its head, if more than 40 minutes is viewed harmful for Chinese youth, why not American?
Maybe the "community notes" model isn't so bad after all
It's a clear sign the international version of TikTok, because of it's addictiveness and content, would never be allowed for a single minute in China by the people that know the most about what it is, and what is does.
What more do you need to know?
Blanket content bans are the stuff of dictatorships, but restricting access to demographics that could be most harmed by it (children for example) is a good idea, and I wish the US would look into it.
How would you know? If you have only a certain time-window, you may need another kind of algorithm to retain ̶a̶d̶d̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n interest day-over-day.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tiktok-china/story?id=108111...
Anecdotally, I have heard from people who lived in China at the time that there was a significant shift in content a few years back.
The whole country had a shift though, they implemented gaming and entertainment regulations and video sites like bilibili went from $153 to a low of $8 a share.
China didn't go after TikTok _alone_ - they reportedly went after anything deemed too addictive, including limiting the time spent on games. It was very clearly aimed towards reducing digital addiction (which is something us in the West still try to ignore as an epidemic)
> China didn't go after TikTok _alone_
Because it was never there. Bytedance never launched TikTok in China.
The entire app is banned. They use a different one called Douyin.
I dont think tiktok app is banned because of algorithm, because bytedance created and maintains both Doyin and Tiktok.
I think it is form of compartmentalizing Internet and social networks, to keep Chinese internet and social media separate from the US.
the red book app, where tiktok refugees are flocking to right now, also want to introduce geofence and compartmentalize Chinese users and US users separately
It’s not just about controlling content but also about controlling how users interact across borders
Tiktok is banned completely in China because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China. The CPP can not allow Chineze citizens to engage in an open exchange of ideas with eachother or with the citizens of other free nations, for obvious reasons.
You are making a distinction without a difference. China knows TikTok is harmful, which is why it allows it's export and bans domestic consumption. Think of it like a drug.
https://www.deseret.com/2022/11/24/23467181/difference-betwe...
"It’s almost like they recognize that technology is influencing kids’ development, and they make their domestic version a spinach version of TikTok, while they ship the opium version to the rest of the world,”
> The actual senators that created the ban
I worked on some language in the bill for my Senator. The unifying concern—and my and their concern—was China.
I know when you have a pet war you tend to see everything through its lens, but most Americans—including electeds—couldn’t care less about what’s going on in Gaza or Ukraine.
That’s not now policy works in the US. We aren’t a direct democracy. Policy proposals don’t require “most Americans” to care about it. It only requires most LEGISLATORS to care.
And legislators have zero requirement to explain to the public the real reason a policy proposal happens. The language used in a bill doesn’t have to be the reason it exists. This is how lobbying works.
I get that people have pet issues they want to protect, but Israel was a big enough reason to force Joe Biden out of office: https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postelection-polling
> Israel was a big enough reason to force Joe Biden out of office
Wow, people really believe Joe Biden wouldn’t have bombed his debate if he just changed his policy on Israel. (Or more seriously, that Kamala was kept out of the White House by this. What a myopic worldview.)
Yes, people believe that, because that’s what scientific polling states. Wow.
You may not agree with the 10% of the population that sides with Hamas, but that’s enough to cause an election to flip from Democrat to Republican or Independent, causing a 1.5% win for Trump.
The world doesn’t operate in majorities. Small groups do have power over you.
> Israel is why we can’t have nice things in America.
I wouldn't say TikTok is a "nice thing" ..
> That same year, Douyin imposed a 40-minute daily limit for users under 14. Last year, Chinese regulators introduced a rule that would limit children under age 18 to two hours of smartphone screen time each day.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tiktok-china/story?id=108111...