Comment by whamlastxmas

Comment by whamlastxmas a day ago

7 replies

I think I’d pick Tesla, even if it’s more data, because they have never sold that data or indicated they ever would. Unlike literally every other manufacturer that has and does

floatrock a day ago

lol has any OEM ever indicated they would sell data? Or was the truth pulled out of them after an extended legal fight where lawyers quibbled over whether weasel-words like "maintenance and quality assurance purposes" covered "selling technically anonymous information to a data broker but everyone knows there's enough metadata in there that the data broker attaches an identity when they resell it to the insurance companies"?

Gut check, sure, but I wouldn't trust the company that argued technically autopilot wasn't turned on in car crashes because they turned it off milliseconds before the sensed impact and blamed it on driver inattention as being a good, well-intentioned data steward.

mikestew a day ago

I bought a Hyundai Ioniq 5. Hyundai never indicated that they’d sell the data, either. But guess what?

Here’s one thing neither Tesla nor Hyundai have ever said: that they won’t sell the data. (EDIT: I stand corrected on Tesla, as per reply comment. “ We do not sell your personal information to anyone for any purpose, period.”)

  • Schiendelman a day ago

    Tesla has said that, right on their privacy page. https://www.tesla.com/support/privacy

    • LocalH 5 hours ago

      The cynic in me says that "do not" does not equal "will not", and even if it said "will not", that's toothless, as Google was for years famous for having "do no evil" baked into their manifesto, until one day they didn't.

MetaWhirledPeas a day ago

I agree if only because Tesla seems so vertically integrated and dedicated to their vision. Nowhere in their vision is "establish a side hustle of selling user data for extra cash".

ActionHank a day ago

"I'd pick Tesla because they're pretty cool guy and don't afraid of anything."

hulitu a day ago

> because they have never sold that data or indicated they ever would.

They all do this until you press "I agree". Some do it even before.