Comment by _bin_

Comment by _bin_ 3 days ago

22 replies

Why would Qantas have the implicit right to the airspace first? Space travel and air travel are both value-added human activities. I can't see why we would always prioritize air travel (particularly in very remote locations like this) over space travel.

Most flights will never be impacted this way.

rising-sky 3 days ago

You're kidding right? This is space debris. If a Qantas flight crashed into your neighborhood, you know who's responsible right?

  • Denvercoder9 3 days ago

    It's not space debris, it's the deliberate disposal of the upper stage of the rocket precisely to prevent it from becoming space debris. The time and location of re-entry are planned and controlled. This is not going to crash into your neighborhood (except if you're neighborhood is in certain areas of China, where they they happily dump spent rocket stages on populated areas).

    • lazide 2 days ago

      To be fair, I’m not sure happily describes it. Indifferently? ‘We warned them and they didn’t move, so f them?’ Ly?

  • IncreasePosts 3 days ago

    Are international waters in the southern Indian ocean Qantas' neighborhood?

    • sangnoir 2 days ago

      Would you ask the same question if it were Long March rocket debris falling into the Atlantic with very short notices from China?

    • bmitc 3 days ago

      It's not the waters that's important here. It's the debris passing through the flight path.

      • marvin 2 days ago

        Another way of phrasing the situation is that Quantas _very inconveniently_ chose to put their flight path straight through the projected trajectory of rocket debris.

      • whataguy 2 days ago

        Qantas doesn't own the flight path either?

axus 3 days ago

A flight is using a very narrow path, the rocket debris is "claiming" a huge unavoidable areas over probably a relatively long period of time.

I wonder what the math is on the plane actually getting hit if it took it's normal route.

  • paranoidrobot 3 days ago

    Something with a lot of significant decimal places that are mostly zeroes.

    Unfortunately "got hit by space debris in designated NOTAM area" looks bad in headlines.

bmitc 3 days ago

> Space travel ... value-added human activities

Heavily debatable.

And you're equating to SpaceX dumping debris and trash in addition to their original flight path to a plane's flight path. Those are not equal things.

  • wat10000 3 days ago

    Why not? Both are an essential part of the operation.

stevage 3 days ago

Do you consider launching spy satellites "value added human activities"?

  • _bin_ 2 days ago

    depends who's doing it. china, for instance, classifies everything they send up as "military" with the ITU to avoid disclosure. the US is a net positive in the world, so our satellites are too.

    • stevage 2 days ago

      Curious which countries you think are net positives. China?

      • _bin_ a day ago

        china is a tougher one. she has been strongly positive in the past, as well as strongly negative; now she is much closer to negative. net all that i'd say negative overall.