Comment by insane_dreamer

Comment by insane_dreamer 4 days ago

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Not really. If you've grown up in Asia you're used to wearing a mask whenever you are feeling unwell or have a cold. We do that out of courtesy to others, and it makes a lot of sense (which is why the practice has continued at hospitals since COVID). My kids were both in elementary school during COVID and got used to it quickly and were just fine.

cryptonector 4 days ago

Many American parents did not consider masking their children to be OK. If you want to know one reason many more are homeschooling now: that's one reason. There's other related reasons too. All the covid reasons to homeschool:

  - schools were closed for too long
  - remote learning wasn't working
  - forced masking of children when
    schools reopened, both against
    the children's and parents' will
  - politicization of all things health
  • insane_dreamer 4 days ago

    > remote learning wasn't working

    I agree with this one.

    > schools were closed for too long

    Probably, but what you're not factoring in is teachers being afraid of going "back to the office" (like most other people were at the time). Unless you're going to force them or fire them (and then where do you get new teachers from?).

    • cryptonector 4 days ago

      I've seen enough pictures of mask-free politicians surrounded by mask-wearing children. Forcing children to wear masks was NEVER about protecting the adults. It was about petty tyrants up and down the power structure exercising power over the helpless and their equally helpless parents (helpless because they depend on schools being childcare). Protecting adults was merely the excuse they needed.

cryptonector 4 days ago

All the assholes who chose to force masking -without evidence!- on children don't get to cry now when parents choose homeschooling.

(There was never any evidence of masking working. Fauci himself had written a paper about how masking didn't work in the Spanish Flu pandemic and instead caused problems. Today it's understood that masking never worked. There is no reputable science that shows masking working in any significant way, and certainly not enough to justify forcing captive audiences to wear the fucking mask. Never again.)

  • insane_dreamer 4 days ago

    Like I said, it wasn't such a big deal for the kids. Were your kids traumatized by having to wear a mask, or are you just generally pissed off for no particular reason?

    > without evidence

    Of course there's evidence that masks prevent the spread of airborne diseases -- it's not that it protects the wearer from viruses penetrating the mask, but it greatly reduces the amount of viral load that is spewed out by a sick person, which in turn reduces the amount of viral load that others are exposed to especially in confined settings. This isn't specific to COVID.

    > Today it's understood that masking never worked.

    Not true. Masks can't fully protect you or prevent COVID but they do reduce the amount of viral load you're exposed to depending on the environment.

    • arkey 3 days ago

      There has been a considerable increase in speech delays and disorders after 2020.

      Some of that is related to lack of diverse socialisation (watching/hearing different people talk) but also caused to masking. Not being able to watch the mouths/lips critically affects a kid's speech development.

    • cryptonector 4 days ago

      > Like I said, it wasn't such a big deal for the kids.

      That is a ridiculous thing to say. Many people, children and adults were very unhappy to wear those disgusting things and/or found them very uncomfortable, and "traumatized" or not should never have been forced to. And yes, being forced to wear them by "authorities" who weren't is traumatizing for some. How dare you say something so fucking offensive? Who the fuck are you to say "it wasn't such a big deal for the kids"?

      Anyways, now you know: many people hated it, hated you and your ilk for being such petty, tyrannical little shits about it, and now it's our turn to do things you don't like, like homeschool. There's nothing tyrannical towards you in others homeschooling, but you are all so offended by it because it takes away your power.

      > Of course there's evidence that masks prevent the spread of airborne diseases -- it's not that it protects the wearer from viruses penetrating the mask, but it greatly reduces the amount of viral load that is spewed out by a sick person, which in turn reduces the amount of viral load that others are exposed to especially in confined settings. This isn't specific to COVID.

      Utter bullshit, but even if you were right it wouldn't justify forced mask wearing, especially for children.

      > Not true. Masks can't fully protect you or prevent COVID but they do reduce the amount of viral load you're exposed to depending on the environment.

      They cannot protect you AT ALL from covid or any small viruses. The boxes say so themselves.

      • insane_dreamer 3 days ago

        > And yes, being forced to wear them by "authorities" who weren't is traumatizing for some.

        maybe for some; not for any of the parents I met before, during or after COVID.

        it's obvious you don't have kids who were in school at that time, so you ... are representing parents somehow??

        > hated you and your ilk for being such petty, tyrannical little shits about it,

        wtf? I haven't met anyone who hated me, well, I guess now I have :)

        > and now it's our turn to do things you don't like, like homeschool.

        Actually, I was homeschooled myself and homeschooled my eldest child (worked out pretty good too, she got a full scholarship to a top engineering college). I like homeschooling. So you really have no idea what you're talking about.

        > Utter bullshit

        It's actually true. Maybe once you stop your rabid screams you'll calm down enough to do some serious research.

        > They cannot protect you AT ALL from covid or any small viruses

        Oh my, next you'll be telling me COVID was/is a hoax and that the earth is flat.

        • cryptonector 3 days ago

          > > They cannot protect you AT ALL from covid or any small viruses

          > Oh my, next you'll be telling me COVID was/is a hoax and that the earth is flat.

          You left out the part where it says so on the box. You're also changing the subject from the horrible and unjustifiable masking of children. Changing the subject is an implied concession. Making up a strawman is pretty desperate. Masking the children was horrible and unjustifiable, and you know that quite well. And you know what, I thank you and the others who engaged in it for it because now no one will be able to do that again for another hundred years. Covid Zero ended in China because the CCP found the limit of what people would tolerate without revolting -- all those petty tyrants clad in full body PPE were going to be getting killed, that much was clear. Here in Texas all that crap got nipped in the bud real quick and next time will be much quicker.

cryptonector 4 days ago

No sorry, this was full time whether sick or not. And if you're sick you just skip school. It was fucking cruel and wrong.