Comment by tokioyoyo

Comment by tokioyoyo 4 days ago

If all of your peers are talking about the stuff they saw on YouTube, but you’re not allowed to, this will naturally make you an outcast in that topic. Now, if almost everything they talk about in the internet, and you cannot relate to it at all, it will hinder your interpersonal skills, because you just don’t talk to your peers.

I hate how we got here, but watching my nephews go through this stuff made me realize you can’t cut the kids off completely. Ideally, you would live in a community where all parents have agreed on the social media limits, and slowly get the kids see how others function through it as well.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3 days ago

>I hate how we got here, but watching my nephews go through this stuff made me realize you can’t cut the kids off completely.

Mine are turning out fine. I don't want them to be like those other children, and I've kept them away from those children. Doesn't seem to have been a problem.

>Ideally, you would live in a community where all parents have agreed on the social media limits,

This is a matter of who you choose to socialize/fraternize with, not one of geography. But if you opt for public school, then you have no real choice in the matter.

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AstralStorm 3 days ago

Congratulations, you're raising future disgruntled outcast class of people who are not integrated with the society.
The next step is some canny asshole will take advantage of these people by selling them on their superiority or offering community, and radicalize them.
It's happened many times.

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- NoMoreNicksLeft 3 days ago
  
  >ongratulations, you're raising future disgruntled outcast class of people who are not integrated with the society.
  This society is dying, nearly dead. Anyone who is integrated with it will die by extension. Only lunatics would want to be integrated with it. This society can't even be bothered to make more humans so that it can continue into the future... it wants to be dead.
  My children aren't outcast, they have friends. Just not ones that would bully them because they didn't see the latest softcore porn on whatever the most popular social media happens to be today.
  >The next step is some canny asshole will take advantage of these people by selling them on their superiority or offering community, and radicalize them.
  Uh huh. What if someone taught them that it was normal to possess firearms, or to be skilled at using them? Those crazy radicals. What if they were taught that the most fulfilling thing they could do in their life is to make a family of their own, and raise their children well? What if their teachers were so radical that they taught arithmetic and trig and calculus instead of helping them decide they were trans?
  Everyone in this thread knows I'm right, even if they can't afford to agree openly. That's what this thread is... we know the society that our parents and ourselves have created is rotten and pathological, or we wouldn't be talking about how to insulate our children from it.
  
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  tokioyoyo 3 days ago
  
  Society is really fine! I live among millions of people every day, and people are genuinely kind and nice on average. It's up to you how you want to perceive the world, but I wouldn't want my neighbours to ever think people around them are lunatics and etc.
  I understand you're coming from a very American-specific point of view, which is very hard for me to comprehend. Growing up, I absolutely never had to worry (and now as well) about any of those topics. Even my nephews in public schools (US) are doing pretty decent maths stuff. I do think some of the things you've mentioned are mostly imaginary problems, but I can be wrong.
  I'm not special. You're not special either. Nobody's really special. Yet we find ways to sit down, have a drink, go for a drive, or have sex from time to time. That being said, I have quite a few friends who had very restricted childhoods, and would never want my children to feel the same resentment as they do during our hang outs.
  
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- iforgot22 3 days ago
  
  ... because they don't have social media? That's a stretch.
  
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tokioyoyo 3 days ago

> Mine are turning out fine. I don't want them to be like those other children, and I've kept them away from those children. Doesn't seem to have been a problem.
To each their own. I personally grew up with the idea of "try to be around all different types of people as I will encounter people from different walks of life, just don't be an idiot". I think, it made me a better person and I pride myself in my ability of getting along with most people. One day, I would want the same for my kids, and hope at that point we would resolve the social media issues.

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AlexandrB 3 days ago

> If all of your peers are talking about the stuff they saw on YouTube, but you’re not allowed to, this will naturally make you an outcast in that topic.

There were plenty of kids when I was in school who were not allowed to watch TV. Like at all.

The real problem is that kids also socialize online now so you can't talk about "that time you hung out at McDonalds" because everyone was sitting at home on their phone instead.

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RandallBrown 3 days ago

> There were plenty of kids when I was in school who were not allowed to watch TV. Like at all.
The kids I knew like this were definitely ostracized for that. Hell, even kids that didn't have _cable_ were usually seen as a little weird.

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tokioyoyo 3 days ago

Yeah, I remember the kids who were not allowed to watch TV, although they missed out on some peer-discussions, at least there were other stuff that everyone was involved in. And the kids that were not allowed to do anything (no internet, no TV, no games, no running outside around), well, I genuinely don't know how, as a kid, I could find anything in common with them. I really hope they're doing well, but I wouldn't want to be them at that time.
I agree with your second point, the problem is there is one and only one avenue of doing things, and that's online (for most of the kids at least).

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iforgot22 3 days ago

The solution is always to get different peers. If you're surrounded by bad influences, fitting in or not fitting in are both bad options.

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