Comment by andrewstuart

Comment by andrewstuart 7 days ago

8 replies

>> - a non-stick pan (Tefal) -

I threw out all my non stick surface pots and pans and all plastic kitchen implements because I don’t want chemicals or plastics in my food. Replaces everything with stainless steel.

7373737373 7 days ago

I've encountered many conflicting opinions about this topic (of course sellers will say it's perfectly safe and health advisors/bloggers the opposite), so i'd really like to see some well-sourced neutral information on this

Polymer fumes do seem to be a thing at high temperatures apparently https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/nonstick-cookware-safet... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer_fume_fever

  • alpaca128 7 days ago

    In our household the by far oldest pan is made of glass. It's also the only one that still looks like new despite having been used for 25+ years. It isn't non-stick but it also doesn't scratch just from looking at it.

    In terms of health, I'm not sure either but you should never use non-stick pans if you have pet birds. As I understand it the way their breathing and lungs work makes it deadly for them. Aside from that as long as it's not proven safe I don't feel like taking unnecessary risks when multiple safe materials are available. Manufacturers claiming their product is safe when it isn't has probably been a thing before the first factory and will still be a thing after I'm gone.

    • kortilla 5 days ago

      What does “proven safe” mean? Even stainless steal cookware is a very recent invention.

  • KempyKolibri 7 days ago

    I think there are some concerns around PFAS, for example: https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/14/7/691

    Not really across the research but my suspicion would be that if there are issues associated with non-stick, it’s likely to be PFAS driven.

    There was a good discussion about the evidence on PFAS that I watched a while back, but I cannot find it for the life of me, sorry.

  • eps 7 days ago

    All non-stick pans deterriorate over time and become stick pans. In case, for example, of Creuset it takes about 2 years of daily use. With Tefal it's less.

    Whether non-stick coating peels off when cooking or when washing is an open question, but chances of it being just the latter are slim to none.

    A better option is copper-inlayed steel pans, something like Falk. They aren't hard to master and they last for decades and have superior heat distribution profile.

yen223 7 days ago

I'm not against non-stick pans for their chemical composition. But I find stainless steel pans much easier to clean because you don't need to be gentle with them. You can take a steel wool to stainless steel pans just fine.

My stainless steel pans also last much longer than my non-stick pans. The non-stick coating seems to deteriorate within only a few years.

mgarfias 7 days ago

cast iron mafia here - though I do have a nice set of copper cored all clad pots and pans.

eddd-ddde 7 days ago

When I moved my new place had ALL stainless steel implements. Turns out I LOVE cooking and all it took was discovering how cool it is to cook with stainless steel. Cleaning is extremely easy.