Comment by stackghost

Comment by stackghost 8 days ago

We're back to a browser monoculture, Chrome, and Google controls browsers to maliciously cripple ad blocking because it affects their bottom line.

DRM is rampant.

Network neutrality is moribund at best.

Power is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few megacorps so you and I can't, for example, run our own email servers if we expect to actually be able to communicate with users of Google or Microsoft.

AI companies get rich doing things that would be illegal for you and me, such as hoovering up copyrighted works without paying for them.

Surveillance is pervasive.

That's just off the top of my head.

mmooss 8 days ago

There are many problems, but that's not evidence that Mozilla's programs are ineffective. People have many health problems and diseases, but that doesn't mean the healthcare system in ineffective. What it shows is that we need Mozilla and healthcare.

> We're back to a browser monoculture, Chrome, and Google controls browsers

Don't forget Apple's browsers, including all the iPhone users.

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stackghost 8 days ago

>People have many health problems and diseases, but that doesn't mean the healthcare system in ineffective.
This is a deeply flawed analogy, and the two situations are superficially similar at best.

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- mmooss 8 days ago
  
  Unless you share your reasoning, it's just a baseless claim. Also, what about the issue, whether or not you happen to like the analogy?
  
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  stackghost 8 days ago
  
  HN is a very poor medium for this type of conversation, so I'm just going to move on
  
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JohnFen 7 days ago

> What it shows is that we need Mozilla and healthcare.
I agree, although I'd say that we need a mozilla-like effort that is effective.
> Don't forget Apple's browsers, including all the iPhone users.
Sure, but Apple's world is effectively a monoculture itself. If you don't buy into Apple and their ecosystem, the existence of those things is irrelevant.

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- mmooss 7 days ago
  
  > Sure, but Apple's world is effectively a monoculture itself. If you don't buy into Apple and their ecosystem, the existence of those things is irrelevant.
  Not in this context: Someone claimed above that the web browser market was a monoculture of only Google Chrome. Apple browsers has a large market share, so it's not a monoculture.
  
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  JohnFen 6 days ago
  
  By that I mean is that in order to use Apple's software, you have to join Apple's entire ecosystem. That means it's not really an alternative if you otherwise find Apple's products unacceptable.
  
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  mmooss 4 days ago
  
  You can use iPhones without using any other Apple products.
  
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