Comment by golol

Comment by golol 2 months ago

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Why does the following obvious solution not work: - Homework is just voluntary. You have to force yourself to study anyways. Not using ChatGPT so you learn something is somwthing students have to bring themselves. - Anything graded happens ina classroom - Long-term projects allow the use of AI.

hirvi74 2 months ago

I had a Calc II professor like that in college. He told us on the first day, "I don't take attendance, and I don't grade homework. If you want to pass the class you'll attend and you'll do the homework on your own."

Long story short, the vast majority of the class attended, did the homework, and still failed anyway. He was known for being... unrelenting and awful. If women went to his office for help during office hours, he wouldn't help them... one of those professors.

bonoboTP 2 months ago

This is pretty much how it is in German universities. (Except for the covid years when exams were online and yeah anyone who studied 2020-2022 will have inflated grades due to lots of cheating. At least ChatGPT didn't exist during covid.)

starfezzy 2 months ago

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  • sensanaty 2 months ago

    > LLMs radically accelerate the learning process.

    Absolutely false, at least for students as someone who has to deal with a lot of students. They learn nothing from pasting in a homework problem into ChatGPT.

    Even for professionals, looking at my colleagues I'm not convinced AI tools are doing anything other than making them dumber and lazier. They just throw whatever at the AI, blindly trust it and push through with it without looking at the output for a millisecond before making it someone else's problem.

  • vharuck 2 months ago

    When considering which qualities to favor in people, I'd be happy if you consider this quote from the 1950 movie Harvey:

    "Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, 'In this world, Elwood, you must be' - she always called me Elwood - 'In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

  • sgarland 2 months ago

    Casually suggesting eugenics is quite the take.

  • Draiken 2 months ago

    > LLMs radically accelerate the learning process.

    Can't agree with that. IME and from what I've read in many places, it's basically only useful if you already know the subject. If you don't, you have no idea if what it spews out is correct or not, and you completely skip the part where you actually use your brain.

    > As a hugely important side note, we should be focusing more on how to support low intelligence people so their shortcomings aren't a burden to themselves and a drain on society.

    Completely agree with that, although I don't think LLMs will help with it at all.

  • SalmoShalazar 2 months ago

    This guy is literally advocating for Nazi eugenics. Is this the kind of content that’s OK on this website now?

    Given the downvotes, guess there are plenty of people here that are pro-eugenics and support thinning the herd of “low IQ individuals” lest they reproduce.

    • brigandish 2 months ago

      They may be advocating for that, but I'm not against them doing so because it gives the rest of us the opportunity to present the arguments against it.

      I take this view lately because I've noticed that younger generations are starting to take up ideas that my grandparents and parents were vehemently against, because they'd either experienced those things or they'd listened to the arguments. As those people die out, and because we naively think that some argument are settled once and for all, we stop presenting them and thus, people get sucked in by the bad stuff.

      So I say let them say it, and let us argue back and never forget what we find from these arguments.