Comment by Nexxxeh

Comment by Nexxxeh 2 months ago

6 replies

This feels really scummy in the "this is why we can't have nice things" sense.

A system put in place to incentivise helping people, abused by a few to inconvenience customers for pocket change.

snypher 2 months ago

It's not really fair to say $6k a month is pocket change. I agree with one of the quotes that if they want some different behavior, they should incentivise something different.

  • Nexxxeh 2 months ago

    I was thinking more that each individual act that inconveniences others was pocket change.

    But I agree that the accumulation of $6k of it in a month is not mere pocket change. I'd wonder if it constitutes some kind of fraud or some other crime.

    If it was just screwing the company, I wouldn't even be mad. It's the people who suddenly can't get a bike or can't return a bike at a given station because of these peoples' selfishness that I'm annoyed for.

    The people who are paid to make sure things run smoothly are doing the exact opposite with zero regard to who it hurts. Shitty behaviour.

    • netsharc 2 months ago

      It's not like it's money from thin air, the legitimate users pay the company, and the company is being "scammed" (or whatever it is - Scam 2.0?) by these "Angels". But obviously the company realizes the whole scheme is still cheaper than employing actual bike movers.

      Maybe they can change the algorithm, if an "Angel" moves a bike from a full station to an empty one, they only get rewarded if a "legitimate" user then uses their bike. Not if it's their own ass who's going to ride it back to the origin station in 15 minutes' time. But then the algo needs to ensure that the next user isn't just the Assangel's friend.

  • DangitBobby 2 months ago

    As we all know, if it's a company, it's not a scam and there's no such thing as victim blaming. Instead, it's "perverse incentives".

DangitBobby 2 months ago

Yeah. My favorite part:

“How are we cheating?” said one Angel in a baggy gray T-shirt, black athletic shorts and sneakers, who declined to give his name. “If Lyft wants something else, they can change the algorithm.”

I don't think anyone would buy that he doesn't know it's cheating, but that won't stop him from attempting to rationalize his behavior because he likes the money.

  • nothercastle 2 months ago

    That never stopped uber or Lyft from cheating on taxi medallions or cheating their drivers