ziddoap 2 days ago

Steel without nuclear contamination is sought after, and only available from pre-war / pre-atomic sources.

The analogy is that data is now contaminated with AI like steel is now contaminated with nuclear fallout.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

>Low-background steel, also known as pre-war steel[1] and pre-atomic steel,[2] is any steel produced prior to the detonation of the first nuclear bombs in the 1940s and 1950s. Typically sourced from ships (either as part of regular scrapping or shipwrecks) and other steel artifacts of this era, it is often used for modern particle detectors because more modern steel is contaminated with traces of nuclear fallout.[3][4]

  • umvi 2 days ago

    > and only available from pre-war / pre-atomic sources.

    From the same wiki you linked:

    "Since the end of atmospheric nuclear testing, background radiation has decreased to very near natural levels, making special low-background steel no longer necessary for most radiation-sensitive uses, as brand-new steel now has a low enough radioactive signature"

    and

    "For the most demanding items even low-background steel can be too radioactive and other materials like high-purity copper may be used"

    • sergiotapia 2 days ago

      reading stuff like this makes me so happy. no matter how fucked up something may be there is always a way to clean right up.

      • shreddit a day ago

        I wouldn't be so optimistic. The thing you call "way" is actually just time. Yes, anything humanity does (good or bad) will fade with time. But do we have the amount of time to clean up X (and i don't refer to X as in "formally twitter")?

        • shmageggy 18 hours ago

          This is (one of the many) reasons why I care primarily about biodiversity and preventing as many human-caused extinctions as we can. Those are a permanent loss to the beauty and complexity of the universe built up over millions of years, and they are permanent and irreversible.

      • felbane 2 days ago

        glances nervously at atmospheric CO2

AlphaAndOmega0 2 days ago

It's a reference to the practise of scavenging steel from sources that were produced before nuclear testing began, as any steel produced afterwards is contaminated with nuclear isotopes from the fallout. Mostly ship wrecks, and WW2 means there are plenty of those. The pun in question is that his project tries to source text that hasn't been contaminated with AI generated material.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

ms512 2 days ago

After the detonation of the first nuclear weapons, any newly produced steel has a low dose of nuclear fallout.

For applications that need to avoid the background radiation (like physics research), pre atomic age steel is extracted, like from old shipwrecks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

GreenWatermelon 2 days ago

From the blog

> Low Background Steel (and lead) is a type of metal uncontaminated by radioactive isotopes from nuclear testing. That steel and lead is usually recovered from ships that sunk before the Trinity Test in 1945.

voytec 2 days ago

To whomever downvoted parent: please don't act against people brave enough to state that they don't know something.

This is a desired quality, increasingly less present in IT work environments. People afraid of being shamed for stating knowledge gaps are not the folks you want to work with.

  • umvi 2 days ago

    I feel like there's a minimum "due diligence" bar to meet though before asking, otherwise it comes across as "I'm too lazy to google the reference and connect the dots myself, but can someone just go ahead and distill a nice summary for me"

    • voytec 2 days ago

      In this particular case, I was out of the loop regarding the clever analogy myself. I'm now a tad smarter because someone else expressed lack of understanding, and I learned from responses to this (grayed due to downvotes) comment.

      • PhunkyPhil 2 days ago

        The problem is that the answer was a really easy google. I didn't know what low background steel was and I just googled it.

        • cwillu 2 days ago

          A person asking the question here means there are now several good succinct explanations of it here.

      • input_sh 2 days ago

        But it's right there in the header, you could just click the link and find out on the top of the webpage.

KeplerBoy 2 days ago

Steel made before atmospheric tests of nuclear bombs were a thing is referred to as low background steel and invaluable for some applications.

LLMs pollute the internet like atomic bombs polluted the environment.

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