blackhawkC17 2 days ago

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  • tecleandor 2 days ago

    > The death toll rose to 12, including two children, Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said on Wednesday. Tuesday's attack wounded nearly 3,000 people, including many of the militant group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.

    The cost and years in the making of this through a shell company in Hungary, and also putting a random (and probably innocent) Taiwanese company in the target, for just killing 12 people including two children... Doesn't look like galaxy brain to me either.

    • blackhawkC17 2 days ago

      Killing is not the point. It’s to feed raw terror to terrorists, giving them a nice taste of their own medicine.

blackeyeblitzar 2 days ago

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  • anigbrowl 2 days ago

    No, not really. In contact with, certainly. Hezbollah holds ~12% of seats in the Lebanese parliament and its military wing is arguably as powerful as the Lebanese army. It would be surprising, arguably irresponsible, if cabinet ministers did not have a channel to communicate with them. Every government has back channels, even to straight up enemies. For example:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/mar/18/northernire...

  • TMWNN 2 days ago

    >The NYT wrote today that Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon was injured (although this may have been in yesterday’s incident?), which makes it obvious that he works with Hezbollah.

    A joke I saw:

    "Why did the Iranian ambassador have a Hezbollah pager?"

    "Because he left the Hamas pager at home."

  • yoavm 2 days ago

    That indeed happened in yesterday's attack. Not to take away from linking him to Hezbollah, however.

  • rasz 2 days ago

    A lot of "freedom" activists yesterday outed themselves sharing news of their relatives/close friends being injured in an unexplained pager accident.

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kbos87 2 days ago

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  • sam_goody 2 days ago

    Hezbollah Has launched thousands of missiles into civilian populations and has already caused the desertion of over 25% of the livable sections of the country. Lately, their weapons are getting better at avoiding the "Iron Dome"; just last week a missile hit an apartment building. A massive bombing plot was foiled this week. They have been getting more and more aggressive.

    I would think that moves like these, primarily affect fighters, destroy the comms structure which is used to wage war (Hezbollah have their own communications system in addition to Lebanon's), and damage the "Hezbollah Elite" image which causes them to be such a power.

    Would bombing Lebanon be a better than what they have done? I think much worse on all counts.

    I am genuinely curious when I see blanket criticism. How would you respond if you were in Israel's shoes?

  • lupusreal 2 days ago

    Younger Americans are by in large not buying Israel's bullshit. American support for Israel is a generational phenomenon and that support will be aging and dying out of the political process in the next 20 or so years, after that Israel will be on their own to face all the enemies they've made, and that won't end well for them.

    I think this is why they've been so aggressive in recent years. They know their window of opportunity is closing.

    • snakeyjake 2 days ago

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      • jhallenworld 2 days ago

        LGBTQ+ and even women's rights are a recent phenomenon in the west, and still unfolding (and could revert). If you want the less enlightened society to embrace these rights, how do you propose to do it? Take their land? Killing their kids? Open air prison? I don't think these strategies are going to do it..

      • YorickPeterse 2 days ago

        You can call Israel out on its bullshit while also doing the same with Hezbollah and Hamas, it's not mutually exclusive.

      • cornercasechase 2 days ago

        No one wants to holiday in an apartheid state. The younger generations have access to actual footage on the ground in Palestine, they will never support Israel.

throwbecausebot 2 days ago

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  • lukan 2 days ago

    Because communication still needs to happen?

    • throwbecausebot 2 days ago

      Of course, but not worth it when you know you've been compromised.

      • lukan 2 days ago

        So you would not call an ambulance, when you need one?

jprd 2 days ago

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  • stevenalowe 2 days ago

    No, because IDF soldiers are legitimate military targets in that context.

    • anigbrowl 2 days ago

      If the parties were reversed as described above, I think the Israelis and their allies in the US would unhesitatingly label it terrorism.

    • jprd 2 days ago

      Correct, should they be on a military base without civilians.

      Indiscriminately exploding devices, and accepting the certain civilian collateral damage?

trallnag 2 days ago

Very impressive. A months long operation culminating in an early new year's eve celebration with a bunch of firecrackers. I guess it's time to go back to pigeons

OutOfHere 2 days ago

War and terrorism aside, for the rest of us, in practical terms, Israel can now never be trusted commercially for its software or hardware. Not only are they backdoored and exploited, but they also blow up and kill the user.

  • hersko a day ago

    Do you think Israel is just randomly planting bombs in everything it makes? This was clearly a targeted op aimed at Hezbollah.

    • OutOfHere a day ago

      Yes, I actually do think that Israel is installing backdoors and explosives in 10x more things than they have activated in their current war against Lebanon.

icar 2 days ago

A US forum talking about people they pre-consider terrorists of a country they surely can't pin point in a map. What can go wrong...