mschuster91 2 months ago

Tell that to Russia, its economy is - military production aside - in shambles due to Western sanctions and especially the brain drain.

The idea of economically enforced peace only works for democratic countries where the government has to show at least a bare minimum of respect towards its citizens, but not in countries that follow the whims of their respective Dear Leader.

  • amanaplanacanal 2 months ago

    Putin is surrounded and supported by people who are probably losing a ton of money right now. When he finally learns his lesson, it's probably going to be a harsh one.

    • lucianbr 2 months ago

      That won't undo any of the damage done by the war, nor bring anyone back. It will pretty much not have any effect at all.

    • rasz 2 months ago

      russian MOD people are making bank right now.

      • dh2022 2 months ago

        Too bad for them they can only spend it in Russia on Chinese stuff. (My father in law lives in Moscow. Muscovites pay more for old Japanese cars than brand new Chinese cars)

foldr 2 months ago

This was famously the argument made in the book The Great Illusion, 5 years before the outbreak of the First World War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion

Wars are often irrational.

  • crote 2 months ago

    It wasn't wrong, just too early.

    At the time international trade was still fairly minor, so although a war would be deeply unprofitable it'd still be possible. Today's economy looks quite different, with even basic consumer goods coming from overseas. If international trade were to suddenly cease, most major countries would be in serious trouble really quickly.

    The most extreme example of this is the European Union. Its economies are so deeply interwoven that they act as a single entity. Separating them to the point that one of its members can independently support a war economy would take decades, so it does indeed make intra-European wars virtually impossible.

    • foldr 2 months ago

      It doesn't make war impossible, just economically ruinous.

      • isk517 2 months ago

        Make's war more unappealing to those that are rational, which is the best you can hope for because there is no sure fire way of dealing with the irrational.

        • foldr 2 months ago

          Although I think wars do often have an irrational element, economic considerations aren’t the only ones that should influence rational decision making.

      • crote 2 months ago

        War is pretty hard when a decent portion of the thing you need to actually do war are made by the country you're at war with. Sure, you can start a war, but it'll be over when your local warehouses run out two weeks later.

        • foldr 2 months ago

          It could be, but are there many historical examples of wars ending for this kind of reason? Typically, no country has its economy set up for wartime production during peacetime. But that can change quickly when there’s a will.

  • thimabi 2 months ago

    We survived the Cold War because the U.S. and the Soviet Union were able to rationally agree on not using nuclear weapons. I sure believe countries today can rationally agree on avoiding war for fear of the economic consequences.