mandmandam 3 days ago

No, saying "whoops" does not excuse war crimes.

  • yoavm 3 days ago

    I never said it excuses it, I just said that when you explicitly target someone you don't usually apologize for it afterward.

    • mandmandam 3 days ago

      Israel don't usually apologize either.

      They didn't apologize in the Hind Rajab case, they denied they were ever there.

      They didn't apologize for the babies at Al-Nasr, they claimed they had to move on suddenly.

      They didn't apologize for the vast majority of journalists murdered, just claimed they were Hamas.

      Etc, tens of thousands of times.

      What might be revealing for you is to look at the cases where they did apologize:

      They apologized for shooting three of their own hostages dead in cold blood as they called out in Hebrew waving a white flag: turns out there was audio of that about to leak. No consequences for anyone involved though.

      They apologized for the World Food Kitchen workers killed, after initial denials. There was undeniable evidence of that one too. Zero consequences.

      They apologized for sniping Aysenur Ezgi - after it turned out she was an American citizen. They still claimed it was an accident, during stones being thrown (a lie). They still haven't reached out to a single witness during their 'investigation'. Zero consequences.

      ... Can you see the pattern here?

      • yoavm 3 days ago

        First, you're changing the subject. I never said Israel didn't commit any crimes - of course it did. I just said that Israel doesn't explicitly target aid workers. In the case of the Kitchen Aid workers that you linked to, not only Israel apologized, the chief of the army fired two very high commanders and punished a few others. Not sure why you're saying there was "zero consequences".

        I'm also not sure why you mention the killing of 3 Israeli hostages, "in cold blood". Do you mean that Israel explicitly targeted them too? The fact that in this situation, unlike with the aid workers, no one was fired, only speaks to say that there's an understanding that mistakes happen even when these mistakes are killing Israelis.

        With regards to hurting Palestinians, the list of Israeli soldiers that were trialed and punished for hurting Palestinians is too long to list here. The list of Palestinian freedom fighters that were trialed (forget about punished) for hurting Israelis is... well, [].