Comment by coliveira

Comment by coliveira 2 months ago

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That's right, but from the Greeks' point of view it was not luck: it was the diving fate, determined by the Gods. The modern equivalent is religious people who believe that everything is determined by the Jewish god.

giraffe_lady 2 months ago

Wouldn't the modern equivalent be scientific materialists who believe it is determined by luck? The ancient greeks believed that fate and consequence were determined by divine act, but not necessarily decided by them. You could after all find yourself a pawn in a power struggle between gods, or by being favored by one be used as a weapon against them by a rival or enemy. This is a really different conception of divine interference than what modern abrahamic religious people believe.

The abrahamic religions all more or less believe god is benevolent and acting in our best interest within the constraint of allowing us also to act freely. This seems fairly different both from what ancient greeks believed about fate and modern secular beliefs about luck and coincidence.

  • coliveira 2 months ago

    The secular belief of luck is that nobody is determining anything: no gods, no divine providence, etc. So, completely unrelated to the Greek beliefs.

    As for modern religious people, everyone has a different version of what their god can do or not. Theologians may spend their whole lives trying to support one version of another.