bufferoverflow 3 days ago

Lebanon has been shooting rockets at Israel for a while now. They already are at war. It's just Israel is very strategic about its steps.

  • bhouston 3 days ago

    > Lebanon has been shooting rockets at Israel for a while now.

    Correction: Israel and Lebanon have been firing across the border for a while. More Israeli attacks on Lebanon than the other way around and more Lebanese dead too.

    Details:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/27/mapping-7400-cross-...

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/bfa9/live/320f24...

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gj544x65o

    And lots more details here:

    "Between 21 October 2023 and 20 February 2024 the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) recorded an estimated 7,948 incidents of artillery fire from the south of the Blue Line (from Israel to Lebanon) and 978 incidents of artillery fire from the north side (from Lebanon to Israel)."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Hezbollah_conflict_(202...

    • cubefox 3 days ago

      The question is who started shooting rockets at the territory of the other. I would be surprised if it was Israel.

      • einszwei 3 days ago

        The answer isn't straight forward. 1980s invasion of Lebanon by Israel and it's withdrawal in 2000 was what made Hezbollah into the force that it is today.

        The conflict has been simmering for decades

      • g8oz 3 days ago

        The question is why did the rocket fire start. The ICJ ruling should tell you why.

      • t0lo 16 hours ago

        Yeah let's redirect the conversation again before we can blame israel!

    • ineedasername 3 days ago

      Per that wikipedia entry this current conflict began with an attack on Israel. Hezbollah attacked a much more powerful enemy so a statement that stops at "they've both been doing it" does not accurately capture the casus belli:

      "Israel and <strikethrough>Lebanon</strikethrough> Hezbollah have been firing across the border since an October 8th strike against Israel in 2023..." etc.

      That is a more complete & accurate description.

    • grumple 3 days ago

      Artillery != rockets. And importantly artillery from Israel is much more targeted and predictable than unguided rockets. Hezbollah has launched about 14k rockets as of late June: https://www.newsweek.com/chart-shows-increae-hezbollah-rocke...

      Just on its face, with Hezbollah launching sometimes hundreds of rockets per day, didn’t you suspect what you posted was misleading?

    • bufferoverflow 3 days ago

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      • bhouston 3 days ago

        > Citing openly anti-israeli sources like BBC and Al-Jazeera is not a way to prove your point.

        Are you saying that their numbers are incorrect? If so share another link you trust more.

      • smokracek 3 days ago

        If the BBC is an anti-Israeli source, it sounds like you'll only accept very pro-Israel sources as true.

lxgr 3 days ago

> if the pager network was compromised, thus burns the compromised network

I wouldn't necessarily call this type of attack a network compromise. All it takes is knowing the target phone numbers and sending a specific message, which is a paging network working exactly as designed. Phone detonated bombs have been a thing for a long time too.

Calling it a hardware supply chain attack seems more accurate.

elendee 3 days ago

it does seem like a purely escalatory move. wounding but not killing 1000+ of your deepest adversaries, slow clap... I'm sure Hezbollah will give up now that their pagers are destroyed.

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