Comment by bufferoverflow
Comment by bufferoverflow 10 months ago
Lebanon has been shooting rockets at Israel for a while now. They already are at war. It's just Israel is very strategic about its steps.
Comment by bufferoverflow 10 months ago
Lebanon has been shooting rockets at Israel for a while now. They already are at war. It's just Israel is very strategic about its steps.
The question is who started shooting rockets at the territory of the other. I would be surprised if it was Israel.
The answer isn't straight forward. 1980s invasion of Lebanon by Israel and it's withdrawal in 2000 was what made Hezbollah into the force that it is today.
The conflict has been simmering for decades
The answer is pretty straight forward in the sense that the current round of war was initiated (proudly) by Hezbollah, and that while if Hezbollah stops shooting Israel would have no business with Lebanon, if Israel stops shooting into Lebanon Hezbollah has no intention of stopping too. Hezbollah wants to destroy Israel (they say that, not me), while Israel has no desire to destroy Lebanon. Hinting at some kind of symmetry here seems weird.
Israel invading into Lebanon in the late 1970 was a response to an attack originating there [0].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre#Israeli_...
I think the answer is fairly straightforward if you limit it to the current round in the conflict
Not to mention that Israel is no longer in Lebanon and Hezbollah can just stop firing rockets and the situation will go back to relative peace.
So sure the history is complicated, but current events are fairly straightfoward, you had relatively peaceful status que until Hezbollah broke it.
> The question is who started shooting rockets at the territory of the other.
I think you can always go back further. A good overview is this article on the history of Hezbollah-Israel conflict, with links to the various flare-ups:
Per that wikipedia entry this current conflict began with an attack on Israel. Hezbollah attacked a much more powerful enemy so a statement that stops at "they've both been doing it" does not accurately capture the casus belli:
"Israel and <strikethrough>Lebanon</strikethrough> Hezbollah have been firing across the border since an October 8th strike against Israel in 2023..." etc.
That is a more complete & accurate description.
Artillery != rockets. And importantly artillery from Israel is much more targeted and predictable than unguided rockets. Hezbollah has launched about 14k rockets as of late June: https://www.newsweek.com/chart-shows-increae-hezbollah-rocke...
Just on its face, with Hezbollah launching sometimes hundreds of rockets per day, didn’t you suspect what you posted was misleading?
Attacks or responses to attacks?
You seem to conflate them.
No. BBC is quite far-left. And far-left is almost 100% anti-Israel.
If you don't think BBC is far-left, count the articles with right-wing perspectives and left-wing perspectives.
> Lebanon has been shooting rockets at Israel for a while now.
Correction: Israel and Lebanon have been firing across the border for a while. More Israeli attacks on Lebanon than the other way around and more Lebanese dead too.
Details:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/27/mapping-7400-cross-...
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/bfa9/live/320f24...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gj544x65o
And lots more details here:
"Between 21 October 2023 and 20 February 2024 the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) recorded an estimated 7,948 incidents of artillery fire from the south of the Blue Line (from Israel to Lebanon) and 978 incidents of artillery fire from the north side (from Lebanon to Israel)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Hezbollah_conflict_(202...